From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-embedded+bounces-3905-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Q7UIC-0004WG-AI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 15:05:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 968471C15E for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 15:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61C31C0A7 for <gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so891664gxk.40 for <gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 07:31:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nr3Ajvi6ODGf1t2A9GQ+Sc50QTQC8+5Fl/l4oYUK9xk=; b=f7TS6pzZg2w58fjt/rBJ73k/XvoEIGNxvuUmq4wVx6cH8NwOuVellrHe0cSClhweEM HH6hr1dCUgL+zAGDZlYeW45FuoNAzZOKxPGlZL39V4fzQeYRY2End+pXKpv3ePNtFP7D pxgrRUJ25FB/1Nthy+b6DnG4Cm3nQQwYRVS0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H/o/LJbHb3uklsnAA2+E5KBIvicXhZaGx63/nCIfi5incLFTB+cVeQI5uukzCf6+zN U4rYSBCUNn76oLAq8/vVmHACCn7B5Et6aDIGGTZpz8MU/Gnj7Gue6IJ5Gy0s8glb0mlz iXCo/mB3JYutitmYxkfPheUWa66NCV6U+MpOU= Received: by 10.90.188.6 with SMTP id l6mr1946261agf.121.1302100260072; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 07:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-embedded+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-embedded+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-embedded+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-embedded.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.123.5 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 07:30:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D9C6E8E.4090501@tampabay.rr.com> References: <BANLkTins3N-9fMsfoeU-Lq6SeoGbp1rhSA@mail.gmail.com> <4D9BA86A.4040705@tampabay.rr.com> <BANLkTini4yt3Czm7S=gKAV=S4U-ZeCbLfg@mail.gmail.com> <4D9C6E8E.4090501@tampabay.rr.com> From: Christopher Friedt <chrisfriedt@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 10:30:31 -0400 Message-ID: <BANLkTi=UC4sGLmYyr0v6922G_cAPNyU32w@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] gcc-4.6 / bionic To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 9b4053884d77592989691460bb0b8c2c Hi James.... I liked reading your reply.... On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:45 AM, wireless <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > Ah grasshopper, you have *GROWN*! =A0I shall anticipate enjoying > the stanza's of your music.... I don't know where you got the grasshopper bit from though... I've been on this list for a looong time. I just choose not to talk much :) Too many mailing lists... too little time! Most of the embedded gentoo stuff I did was targeting armv4t, and the company I did it for didn't actually sell devices, just services - which meant that a lot of work I did wasn't legally required to be made open-source. Thankfully, I no longer work for them and have much better toys to play with now (e.g. beagle xM, panda, etc). As for the BSD stuff, I agree. I think it's important to give back and try to get bionic ELIBC to a somewhat stable level of support. Naturally, that means being assigned bugs :P. I would certainly be willing to 'own' some bugs within some reasonable bounds (e.g. bionic's libstdc++ doesn't support exceptions... the pthread lib doesn't support pthread_cancel). It's more or less intended as a platform for managed code - .ie. Java. Although Python, Mono, and Lua also work to some extent. Linaro seems to want the bionic + gcc marriage to work too (i.e. -mandroid), otherwise asac wouldn't have submitted patches for gcc. Linaro has an army of engineers at their disposal and I would imagine some of them probably use Gentoo too ;-) C