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Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] Gentoo on a Arietta G25
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Very nice Meino!  Congratulations.

Two Points:

1) Just for kicks, here's an ordering list I prepared (but am not 
submitting as I'm behind)
at http://www.acmesystems.it/catalog_arietta

For propriety, to ship a base system to the United States, I prepared 
the following order:
WIFI-2    OEM WiFi USB module    € 7,00        € 7,00
ARIETTA-G25-256    ARM9 Linux Embedded Module (256MB)    € 30,00     € 30,00
AN-WIFI-02    WiFi antenna and SMA clable    € 7,00        € 7,00
DPI    Debug Port Interface    € 8,00        € 8,00
PS5V1A-USB2    Switching power supply 5V 1A - 2 USB out    € 8,00     € 8,00
STRIP-002    Female strip 20x2 pin pitch 2.54mm    € 0,80        € 0,80
STRIP-001    Male strip 20x2 pin pitch 2.54mm    € 0,60        € 0,60
STRIP-005    Male strip 20x2 pin 90 degree pitch 2.54mm    € 0,80     € 0,80
STRIP-006    Female strip 20x2 pin 90 degree pitch 2.54mm    € 1,40    
     € 1,40
     Sub-total    € 63,60
     Select your country:
If your country is not listed, please read shipping FAQ
     Freight charges    28,00
         Total amount    € 91,60

I thought others might appreciate what the out-the-door cost would be.

2) I recommend Meino try to create a page similar to 
http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/beagleboneblack/install.xml
(I still have my Beaglebone black in its unused condition, despite my 
having scrutinized the install documentation and making suggestions to 
Raul.)

On 12/6/2014 11:09 AM, wireless wrote:
> On 12/06/14 13:38, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> recently I bought a great little Linux board: Arietta G25
>> (http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta)
>>
>> Since I like Gentoo I installed it instead of the provided Debian
>> system.  The system I used to compile the kernel is -- of course -- a
>> Gentoo -- Linux PC.
>
>
> Fantastic effort there Meino!
>
> Ok, so looking here:
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/
>
> I cannot determine who is the one to contact to
> get this offering of current information, correctly
> formatted to be included in the "boards" section
> of the gentoo embedded handbook?
>
> Next point, Meino has offered up a great bit of information
> that surely does not belong in the Gentoo embedded handbook,
> but is a great resource to encourage others how to go about
> hacking away at a gentoo embedded project. So I think the
> original email can be listed somewhere for others newer to
> embedded gentoo hacking, as an example. Where would this
> be placed? Linked to the handbook as "references" or "notes" or 
> "appendix 1"  or such?
>
>
> Also, if there is a format we want folks to follow should the
> gentoo embedded project page have a suggested format to follow?
>
> Many of those listing in the board section merely contain:
>
> 1. Board specifications
> 2. /proc/cpuinfo
>
> Maybe the full possible format (optional for the contributor)
> could have these additional categories:
>
> make.conf
>
> bootstrap/init details
>
> installed packages
>
> cross compiling details
>
> Native compiling details
>
> Special code/hacks included
> (such as netconsole.c)
>
> Libraries
> ulibC, musl, bionic, glibc
>
> languages
>
> Added hardware, such as a relay board to
> power up and down other electronics as an example.
>
> So, being a long time reader of gentoo embedded, I understand that
> most folks in the gentoo-embedded-project space, are busy and have
> a very deep and strong background in embedded linux. I also understand
> that they do not need a robustly maintained gentoo-embedded-handbook. 
> But, if we are to encourage others to learn and develop into strong
> gentoo-embedded hackers, then we should provide a pathway for their
> needs. Expanding the scope of the gentoo-embedded-manual or creating
> an ancillary document, with many more simplified steps, would be
> an excellent first step to revitalizing gentoo-embedded, imho.
>
> Personally, I'd like to see what the 64Bit arm devs have in mind for
> the Gentoo embedded handbook, or as a minimized full (stage?) offering?
> I've just been waiting for 64Bit arm boards to come down a bit in
> price; ymmv.
>
> I will defer to the leadership decision of the gentoo-embedded-project
> team.
>
> sincerely,
> James Horton
>

-- 
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John Laurence Poole
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    Very nice Meino!  Congratulations.<br>
    <br>
    Two Points:<br>
    <br>
    1) Just for kicks, here's an ordering list I prepared (but am not
    submitting as I'm behind)<br>
    at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.acmesystems.it/catalog_arietta">http://www.acmesystems.it/catalog_arietta</a><br>
    <br>
    For propriety, to ship a base system to the United States, I
    prepared the following order:<br>
    WIFI-2    OEM WiFi USB module    € 7,00        € 7,00<br>
    ARIETTA-G25-256    ARM9 Linux Embedded Module (256MB)    € 30,00   
        € 30,00<br>
    AN-WIFI-02    WiFi antenna and SMA clable    € 7,00        € 7,00<br>
    DPI    Debug Port Interface    € 8,00        € 8,00<br>
    PS5V1A-USB2    Switching power supply 5V 1A - 2 USB out    € 8,00   
        € 8,00<br>
    STRIP-002    Female strip 20x2 pin pitch 2.54mm    € 0,80        €
    0,80<br>
    STRIP-001    Male strip 20x2 pin pitch 2.54mm    € 0,60        €
    0,60<br>
    STRIP-005    Male strip 20x2 pin 90 degree pitch 2.54mm    € 0,80   
        € 0,80<br>
    STRIP-006    Female strip 20x2 pin 90 degree pitch 2.54mm    €
    1,40        € 1,40<br>
        Sub-total    € 63,60<br>
        Select your country:<br>
    If your country is not listed, please read shipping FAQ<br>
        Freight charges    28,00<br>
            Total amount    € 91,60<br>
    <br>
    I thought others might appreciate what the out-the-door cost would
    be.<br>
    <br>
    2) I recommend Meino try to create a page similar to
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/beagleboneblack/install.xml">http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/beagleboneblack/install.xml</a><br>
    (I still have my Beaglebone black in its unused condition, despite
    my having scrutinized the install documentation and making
    suggestions to Raul.)<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/6/2014 11:09 AM, wireless wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite="mid:54835475.2000901@tampabay.rr.com" type="cite">On
      12/06/14 13:38, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:meino.cramer@gmx.de">meino.cramer@gmx.de</a> wrote:
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">Hi,
        <br>
        <br>
        recently I bought a great little Linux board: Arietta G25
        <br>
        (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta">http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta</a>)
        <br>
        <br>
        Since I like Gentoo I installed it instead of the provided
        Debian
        <br>
        system.  The system I used to compile the kernel is -- of course
        -- a
        <br>
        Gentoo -- Linux PC.
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      <br>
      Fantastic effort there Meino!
      <br>
      <br>
      Ok, so looking here:
      <br>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/">http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/</a>
      <br>
      <br>
      I cannot determine who is the one to contact to
      <br>
      get this offering of current information, correctly
      <br>
      formatted to be included in the "boards" section
      <br>
      of the gentoo embedded handbook?
      <br>
      <br>
      Next point, Meino has offered up a great bit of information
      <br>
      that surely does not belong in the Gentoo embedded handbook,
      <br>
      but is a great resource to encourage others how to go about
      <br>
      hacking away at a gentoo embedded project. So I think the
      <br>
      original email can be listed somewhere for others newer to
      <br>
      embedded gentoo hacking, as an example. Where would this
      <br>
      be placed? Linked to the handbook as "references" or "notes" or
      "appendix 1"  or such?
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Also, if there is a format we want folks to follow should the
      <br>
      gentoo embedded project page have a suggested format to follow?
      <br>
      <br>
      Many of those listing in the board section merely contain:
      <br>
      <br>
      1. Board specifications
      <br>
      2. /proc/cpuinfo
      <br>
      <br>
      Maybe the full possible format (optional for the contributor)
      <br>
      could have these additional categories:
      <br>
      <br>
      make.conf
      <br>
      <br>
      bootstrap/init details
      <br>
      <br>
      installed packages
      <br>
      <br>
      cross compiling details
      <br>
      <br>
      Native compiling details
      <br>
      <br>
      Special code/hacks included
      <br>
      (such as netconsole.c)
      <br>
      <br>
      Libraries
      <br>
      ulibC, musl, bionic, glibc
      <br>
      <br>
      languages
      <br>
      <br>
      Added hardware, such as a relay board to
      <br>
      power up and down other electronics as an example.
      <br>
      <br>
      So, being a long time reader of gentoo embedded, I understand that
      <br>
      most folks in the gentoo-embedded-project space, are busy and have
      <br>
      a very deep and strong background in embedded linux. I also
      understand
      <br>
      that they do not need a robustly maintained
      gentoo-embedded-handbook. But, if we are to encourage others to
      learn and develop into strong
      <br>
      gentoo-embedded hackers, then we should provide a pathway for
      their
      <br>
      needs. Expanding the scope of the gentoo-embedded-manual or
      creating
      <br>
      an ancillary document, with many more simplified steps, would be
      <br>
      an excellent first step to revitalizing gentoo-embedded, imho.
      <br>
      <br>
      Personally, I'd like to see what the 64Bit arm devs have in mind
      for
      <br>
      the Gentoo embedded handbook, or as a minimized full (stage?)
      offering?
      <br>
      I've just been waiting for 64Bit arm boards to come down a bit in
      <br>
      price; ymmv.
      <br>
      <br>
      I will defer to the leadership decision of the
      gentoo-embedded-project
      <br>
      team.
      <br>
      <br>
      sincerely,
      <br>
      James Horton
      <br>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
      <title>Email Rider</title>
      <p><font face="Verdana" size="2">John Laurence Poole<br>
          P.O. Box 6566<br>
          Napa CA 94581-6566<br>
          707-812-1323 office<br>
          <br>
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