From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PV3uB-00067Y-PC for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:13:36 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75986E074C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.nippynetworks.com (mail1.nippynetworks.com [212.227.250.41]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFB7E063C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:58:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (mail1.nippynetworks.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.nippynetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF2A674680 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:58:57 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at nippynetworks.com Received: from mail1.nippynetworks.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.nippynetworks.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id dDkdJKeWhC7d for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:58:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Ed-Wildgooses-MacBook-Pro.local (office.nippynetworks.com [212.69.49.94]) (Authenticated sender: edward@wildgooses.com) by mail1.nippynetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5182667480B for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:58:57 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4D10C0B0.8010602@wildgooses.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:58:56 +0000 From: Ed W User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] Some good words for Gentoo embedded? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 64950044-9178-4c81-8602-f874a3c70f43 X-Archives-Hash: e33d484bdb867d422f27cf6721a81d86 On 09/12/2010 20:18, Kfir Lavi wrote: > Hi, > I'm using Gentoo for few years now, and had some experience in the > past with Gentoo embedded. > Now I'm facing a customer that wants explanation why using Gentoo as > an embedded system will be a good choice. > How do you shrink a 10 years experience to half an hour talk to people > that think Ubuntu is a good embedded choice. > I'm guessing they will ask for type of distros for embedded compared > to Gentoo. > From my head I know just by name Buildroot and Montavista. > > What will be the major points I need to make in order to convert > their minds from Ubuntu to Gentoo embedded? > Could you share also some of your experience with Gentoo Embedded? > > Thinking about it, its very hard for me to contemplate in words "Why > Gentoo?" for people that don't understand Linux, but are educated and > very experienced in software. I do get the impression that when people start talking about "distros" they usually loose sight that they are all 98% the same software, only slightly different versions and perhaps slightly different config files... Now for sure that can make a visible difference, especially the default configs for desktop apps, but one way or another, the question is really about the "best" way to get a bunch of software compiled and installed on your device? I like gentoo for situations where: - Skilled developer available - Customisable solution is desired - Tightly controlled deployment environment - Repeatable build environment required I think gentoo is far less acceptable if there isn't a skilled developer available to help maintain and develop it... Probably that's my main suggestion on how to size your project? However, if that developer/administrator is available, then Gentoo is a marvellous solution for quickly building few MB custom solution, or a 60MB virtual server base installation, or whatever other customised environment you desire? Good luck Ed W