[gentoo-embedded] Using Gentoo for project

[gentoo-embedded] Using Gentoo for project

[Chuck Robey]

I wanted to see if I could begin a rather long-term project to make use 
of Gentoo, to create a project for ultimate installation on a Zaurus 
SL-C3000 (and where I would specify a rather large amount of available 
disk space).  The trouble right now is, I don' know the status of Gentoo 
with regards to supporting such a project (even just supplying another 
project that is close to it in architecture, such as also using the 
Xscale processor, or maybe allowing the QT environment and a frame buffer).

If Gentoo has such a project, or any project that I might use as a jump 
off point, could I please get and name of this project, and a pointer 
either to a tarball, or maybe a documentation web page, and what mailing 
list I could use.  I'm trying for extra info.

My idea right now is to base a project upon the Pengutronix PTXdist 
build environment.  It's based directly upon make, and doesn't try to 
build it's own build tool, which I like a lot.  I don't want to solicit 
help here, you folks have your own projects to work on (although I 
wouldn't reject such help), so don't worry about my asking for a huge 
amunt of help from you, but please, coul dyou give me some Gentoo 
pointers to get me started off?  The Gentoo pages themselves seem to be 
very bare of pointers to any Embedded project, it seems.
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Re: [gentoo-embedded] Using Gentoo for project

[Cliff Brake]

On 6/15/06, Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org> wrote:
> I wanted to see if I could begin a rather long-term project to make use
> of Gentoo, to create a project for ultimate installation on a Zaurus
> SL-C3000 (and where I would specify a rather large amount of available
> disk space).  The trouble right now is, I don' know the status of Gentoo
> with regards to supporting such a project (even just supplying another
> project that is close to it in architecture, such as also using the
> Xscale processor, or maybe allowing the QT environment and a frame buffer).
>
> If Gentoo has such a project, or any project that I might use as a jump
> off point, could I please get and name of this project, and a pointer
> either to a tarball, or maybe a documentation web page, and what mailing
> list I could use.  I'm trying for extra info.
>
> My idea right now is to base a project upon the Pengutronix PTXdist
> build environment.  It's based directly upon make, and doesn't try to
> build it's own build tool, which I like a lot.  I don't want to solicit
> help here, you folks have your own projects to work on (although I
> wouldn't reject such help), so don't worry about my asking for a huge
> amunt of help from you, but please, coul dyou give me some Gentoo
> pointers to get me started off?  The Gentoo pages themselves seem to be
> very bare of pointers to any Embedded project, it seems.

Someone has gentoo running on a NSLU2 which has a Xscale ARM processor
-- might be a good place to start:

http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/GentooSlug/HomePage

I personally really like Openembedded because it has good support for
cross compiling apps and contains lots of packages.  Running gentoo
and other distros on Xscale targets is possible, but seems hardly
practical due to the very long compile times.

Cliff

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Re: [gentoo-embedded] Using Gentoo for project

[Anish Patel]

How maintains this port? i am working on using gentoo on the Intel IXP 465 
processors, but can not get the NPE's to come up properly, any help would be 
appreciated.



Anish Patel

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From: "Cliff Brake" <cliff.brake@gmail.com>
To: <gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] Using Gentoo for project


> On 6/15/06, Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org> wrote:
>> I wanted to see if I could begin a rather long-term project to make use
>> of Gentoo, to create a project for ultimate installation on a Zaurus
>> SL-C3000 (and where I would specify a rather large amount of available
>> disk space).  The trouble right now is, I don' know the status of Gentoo
>> with regards to supporting such a project (even just supplying another
>> project that is close to it in architecture, such as also using the
>> Xscale processor, or maybe allowing the QT environment and a frame 
>> buffer).
>>
>> If Gentoo has such a project, or any project that I might use as a jump
>> off point, could I please get and name of this project, and a pointer
>> either to a tarball, or maybe a documentation web page, and what mailing
>> list I could use.  I'm trying for extra info.
>>
>> My idea right now is to base a project upon the Pengutronix PTXdist
>> build environment.  It's based directly upon make, and doesn't try to
>> build it's own build tool, which I like a lot.  I don't want to solicit
>> help here, you folks have your own projects to work on (although I
>> wouldn't reject such help), so don't worry about my asking for a huge
>> amunt of help from you, but please, coul dyou give me some Gentoo
>> pointers to get me started off?  The Gentoo pages themselves seem to be
>> very bare of pointers to any Embedded project, it seems.
>
> Someone has gentoo running on a NSLU2 which has a Xscale ARM processor
> -- might be a good place to start:
>
> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/GentooSlug/HomePage
>
> I personally really like Openembedded because it has good support for
> cross compiling apps and contains lots of packages.  Running gentoo
> and other distros on Xscale targets is possible, but seems hardly
> practical due to the very long compile times.
>
> Cliff
>
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> Cliff Brake
> http://bec-systems.com
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Re: [gentoo-embedded] Using Gentoo for project

[Chuck Robey]

Cliff Brake wrote:

> On 6/15/06, Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org> wrote:
>
>> I wanted to see if I could begin a rather long-term project to make use
>> of Gentoo, to create a project for ultimate installation on a Zaurus
>> SL-C3000 (and where I would specify a rather large amount of available
>> disk space).  The trouble right now is, I don' know the status of Gentoo
>> with regards to supporting such a project (even just supplying another
>> project that is close to it in architecture, such as also using the
>> Xscale processor, or maybe allowing the QT environment and a frame 
>> buffer).
>>
>> If Gentoo has such a project, or any project that I might use as a jump
>> off point, could I please get and name of this project, and a pointer
>> either to a tarball, or maybe a documentation web page, and what mailing
>> list I could use.  I'm trying for extra info.
>>
>> My idea right now is to base a project upon the Pengutronix PTXdist
>> build environment.  It's based directly upon make, and doesn't try to
>> build it's own build tool, which I like a lot.  I don't want to solicit
>> help here, you folks have your own projects to work on (although I
>> wouldn't reject such help), so don't worry about my asking for a huge
>> amunt of help from you, but please, coul dyou give me some Gentoo
>> pointers to get me started off?  The Gentoo pages themselves seem to be
>> very bare of pointers to any Embedded project, it seems.
>
>
> Someone has gentoo running on a NSLU2 which has a Xscale ARM processor
> -- might be a good place to start:
>
Yes, I saw this ... all the things I have seen regarding installation of 
Gentoo into a PDA (inclduing Xscale) target, they all seem to be 
predicated upon having the target itself to build the gentoo upon.  It 
seems that there is no way to use any sort of cross-compiling to be able 
to generate a gentoo system... I *think* I could capure a i586 gentoo 
system, figure out each of the binaries, and make sure my system builds 
them Iinclduing emerge, all the portage things), and then try to just 
copy the config files.  Is that what I must do?  It just seems to me 
that someone must have tried to assemble a gentoo environment before this.

> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/GentooSlug/HomePage
>
> I personally really like Openembedded because it has good support for
> cross compiling apps and contains lots of packages.  Running gentoo
> and other distros on Xscale targets is possible, but seems hardly
> practical due to the very long compile times.
>
> Cliff
>

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Re: [gentoo-embedded] Using Gentoo for project

[Chuck Robey]

Cliff Brake wrote:

> On 6/15/06, Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org> wrote:
>
>> I wanted to see if I could begin a rather long-term project to make use
>> of Gentoo, to create a project for ultimate installation on a Zaurus
>> SL-C3000 (and where I would specify a rather large amount of available
>> disk space).  The trouble right now is, I don' know the status of Gentoo
>> with regards to supporting such a project (even just supplying another
>> project that is close to it in architecture, such as also using the
>> Xscale processor, or maybe allowing the QT environment and a frame 
>> buffer).
>>
>> If Gentoo has such a project, or any project that I might use as a jump
>> off point, could I please get and name of this project, and a pointer
>> either to a tarball, or maybe a documentation web page, and what mailing
>> list I could use.  I'm trying for extra info.
>>
>> My idea right now is to base a project upon the Pengutronix PTXdist
>> build environment.  It's based directly upon make, and doesn't try to
>> build it's own build tool, which I like a lot.  I don't want to solicit
>> help here, you folks have your own projects to work on (although I
>> wouldn't reject such help), so don't worry about my asking for a huge
>> amunt of help from you, but please, coul dyou give me some Gentoo
>> pointers to get me started off?  The Gentoo pages themselves seem to be
>> very bare of pointers to any Embedded project, it seems.
>
>
> Someone has gentoo running on a NSLU2 which has a Xscale ARM processor
> -- might be a good place to start:
>
> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/GentooSlug/HomePage
>
> I personally really like Openembedded because it has good support for
> cross compiling apps and contains lots of packages.  Running gentoo
> and other distros on Xscale targets is possible, but seems hardly
> practical due to the very long compile times.
>
I'm trying to understand wha has o happen, for me to be able to form up 
a Gentoo base system.  I guess it's going to need a list of everything I 
find in /bin and /usr/bin )all the GNU packages, I guess).  I have my 
own build system for this, so don't assume I will be using emerge to bu 
ild these, I won't (as long as maybe I could use emerge on my home 
system to figure out preciely what parts are which).

Once I have /bin and /usr/bin (and I guess the /sbin partners), then I 
could, I hope, arrange to build portage, I think.  I'm pretty sure of 
this, especially like I said, I can use a good emerge build as a work 
script.  After I have portage built, then I need to be able to handle 
all of the /etc Gentoo stuff, and all of the /etc Portage stuff.  Do I 
have to inspect my Pentium system for what files exist, and just hope to 
get it complete, or is there some package of software to serve as a package?

Understand, my goal is to be able to use the Pengutronix stuff to 
install a Gentoo ssytem onto a C3000 (hard disk enabled) Zaurus.  It's a 
possible thing, if only I can figure my way how to assemble a Gentoo 
system somehow.

> Cliff
>

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