From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FvZbz-0006t9-QQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:57:44 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5SCueUr020609; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:56:40 GMT Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0102.google.com [72.14.214.193]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5SCudcS011629 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:56:39 GMT Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 34so1310921hud for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:56:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KOjV2FlS6QN+djnCpwH3QmhMQXFZHqB2zoJT+ecK0y98Je22Ja63jvNFSCdD18z9U2W7ByZExLkdasH75CKd5bG8ot7rEUrJnmrqlDUJZhDZY7bkzJCg7jlMgYpwHsHiOGLSuhgdDFDgzTBnYA/CL7Wn51BZ82E6qJstJZUTpdg= Received: by 10.35.18.18 with SMTP id v18mr367709pyi; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.113.16 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20c6f18e0606280556p697d4428u51832cd55ada5e47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:56:38 +0100 From: "Marcelo Coelho" To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] ADSL router + firewall + PoPToP.... In-Reply-To: <1151497134.28440.70.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-embedded@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20c6f18e0606270550ld60f95endf619a6b8939aa06@mail.gmail.com> <44A15DC5.30101@gentoo.org> <20c6f18e0606271003g6b0e18c1x7a6e7dfd64295e18@mail.gmail.com> <1151455887.21498.6.camel@localhost> <20c6f18e0606280153h64d1fbc6p8187ae840e6dc2fe@mail.gmail.com> <1151485797.28440.51.camel@localhost> <1151495218.1565.9.camel@localhost> <1151497134.28440.70.camel@localhost> X-Archives-Salt: b29ad9a6-d295-4ecc-b4d0-59002025e2a3 X-Archives-Hash: 748329558d2cb7ddeb18ac76ca4faac6 What about a bootchart? Is there one available? My system is a normal stripped down gentoo install (for now). I'm making some scripts to make the build process automatic in a build host and create a tarball with it. My pc doesn't boot from cd-rom... :( (When i'm satisfied with the results i'll post an how-to at gentoo-wiki. :) ). So what i want is stability and boot up speed. I don't test initng for a while, and when i did i didn't had good results, but for what i want it _may_ be good enough, but if the boot time is similar to your baselayout, i'll use it instead... In the mean time, what you want to say with "But its designed to load binary packages to ram during boot, LEAF style." ? Thanks! 2006/6/28, Natanael Copa : > On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 07:46 -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 11:09 +0200, Natanael Copa wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 09:53 +0100, Marcelo Coelho wrote: > > > > > no not at all. the baselayout-lite one does not depend on bash what so > > > > > ever and includes pretty much no init/conf scripts. You get to hack on > > > > > your own init scripts, which is a trivial task. > > > > > > > > Well, i have to use a different baselayout. The boot time is far too > > > > long to be acceptable and there is a problem with hotplug (an error > > > > appears that the firmware isn't available). But i don't know if it's > > > > easier to make my init scripts or use initng. > > > > > > I have made a baselyaout with a stripped down version of runscript that > > > will run the many init.d script from gentoo out of the box. > > > > > > Let me know if you are interested and I'll send you the sources > > > > > > Does not depend on bash? > > no > > > Works with ash? :) > > yes :) > > or... I'm actually using dash currently because coldplugging takes like > 3 minutes with ash and 5 seconds with dash. (its fixed in next release > of busybox so I'll drop dash) > > > If so I think we would all be interested in moving fwd in that > > direction. Feel like putting together an updated baselayout-lite ebuild? > > I have one already. But its designed to load binary packages to ram > during boot, LEAF style. > > rsync://tanael.org/alpine-portage/sys-apps/baselayout-alpine/ > > You can probably reuse parts of it. The source package is here: > http://tanael.org/alpine/baselayout-alpine/baselayout-alpine-0.9.6.tar.gz > > I kind of immitate runlevels, (using rc0.d, rc1.d etc) but the big > difference from normal sysv is that *all* runlevels or "boot stages" are > executed. > > I had to patch some of the init.d scripts. Typically it was replacing: > > if [ expr && expr ] ... > > with: > > if [ expr ] && [ expr ] ... > > If we could get the init.d script writers to try to not be too bashish, > it would be great. > > If there is interrest I could dump my patches somwhere. > > If you want to see it in action, try: > http://tanael.org/alpine/v1.1/iso/alpine-1.1.3_beta8-060622-i386.iso > > Its 125Mb > > > -- > gentoo-embedded@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-embedded@gentoo.org mailing list