From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PYCd0-0007dc-MM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:08:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7AB1E076B for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgate.caprica.metux.de (caprica.metux.de [82.165.128.25]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E38E057F for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 06:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgate.caprica.metux.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.caprica.metux.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oBU6m1LY000576 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:48:01 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mailgate.caprica.metux.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with UUCP id oBU6m0Fj000567 for gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:48:00 +0100 Received: (from weigelt@localhost) by nibiru.metux.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) id oBU6kYha024770 for gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:46:34 +0100 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:46:34 +0100 From: Enrico Weigelt To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] Is a compilation depend on the running kernel? Message-ID: <20101230064634.GD10596@nibiru.local> References: <201012261346.53599.vapier@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201012261346.53599.vapier@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Terror: bin laden, kill bush, Briefbombe, Massenvernichtung, KZ, X-Nazi: Weisse Rasse, Hitlers Wiederauferstehung, 42, X-Antichrist: weg mit schaeuble, ausrotten, heiliger krieg, al quaida, X-Killer: 23, endloesung, Weltuntergang, X-Doof: wer das liest ist doof X-Archives-Salt: 8f2f2954-e9df-4fd1-9689-8bccb6679c7a X-Archives-Hash: a68df26e8f810f2f67d05333b4f8cec8 * Mike Frysinger schrieb: > it depends on the package. we really dont track what configure tests actually > test since there's way too many. most packages stick to the C library. That's one of the major design issues of the whole autoconf ideology: too many (often obscure) tests instead of once sitting down and designing proper library interfaces (eg. using empty/ virtual libs where libc already provides the interface) or just fixing broken libc's. Little example, where I'm working on right now: coreutils and gnulib. Imagine, these jerks not just collected hundreds of (sometimes really broken) tests and workarounds instead of fixing the source - they also collected them in another "package" called gnulib, which gets fetched via git (from the current head instead of some release tag!) and _copied_ into the coreutils source tree by some obscure "bootstrap" script. Wow, self-modifying code. Violating all rules of the very first semester in software engineering ;-o cu -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weigelt@metux.de mobile: +49 151 27565287 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme ----------------------------------------------------------------------