* Re: [gentoo-embedded] Suitable Email Client - was FAQ / How To?
2006-01-23 21:24 [gentoo-embedded] Suitable Email Client - was FAQ / How To? Dennis Taylor
@ 2006-01-23 15:58 ` wireless
2006-01-23 21:36 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
` (2 subsequent siblings)
3 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: wireless @ 2006-01-23 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-embedded
Dennis Taylor wrote:
> It must be the email client. Please do not flame me, but for email, I
> am stuck with MS Windows. Does anyone have a suggestion of a client
> that I can put on Windows to enable me to comply with this very
> reasonable request?
Mozilla has a very simple email client that is pretty easy to
configure and it runs on linux/bsd/windoz...
James
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: solar [mailto:solar@gentoo.org]
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:21 PM
> To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: RE: [gentoo-embedded] FAQ / How To?
>
> Please stop creating a brand new thread for every post when it's really
> a RE: to an existing thread. If it's your email client doing it then
> please install a functional one.
>
>
> On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 15:45 -0500, Dennis Taylor wrote:
>
>>Well, I blew that one. I decided to start over just in case I had
>>missed something. Unfortunately, I failed to umount portage before I
>>did rm -rf on the staging area. Now, I do not have /usr/portage.
>>Some days are like that. :-(
>>
>>Does anyone know if it is possible to recover just portage without
>>starting all over?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Heath Holcomb [mailto:liquidcable@bulah.com]
>>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 1:32 PM
>>To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org
>>Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] FAQ / How To?
>>
>>I wrote the how-to. I haven't built a system in several weeks, so
>>portage has changed a bit (and ebuilds). I plan on updating the
>>how-to in a week or two, if I discover new problems (looks like there
>>are some).
>>
>>--
>>heath holcomb
>>liquidcable at bulah.com
>>www.bulah.com
>>
>>On Monday 23 January 2006 12:28, Dennis Taylor wrote:
>>
>>>Having followed the other link to
>>>http://www.bulah.com/embedded-guide.html, which seems to be more up
>>>to
>>
>>>date, am still having problems. At step 3 I get the following
>>
>>response.
>>
>>>clwsapp07 root # ROOT=/embedded_rootfs emerge -K uclibc Calculating
>>>dependencies !!! There are no packages available to satisfy:
>
> "uclibc"
>
>>>!!! Either add a suitable binary package or compile from an ebuild.
>>>
>>>I thought all the previous steps went OK. Even some of the
>>>workarounds seem to no longer be needed. Any ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: Joshua ChaitinPollak [mailto:jpollak@kivasystems.com]
>>>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:16 AM
>>>To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org
>>>Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] FAQ / How To?
>>>
>>>
>>>This is what I use:
>>>
>>>http://www.bulah.com/embeddedgentoo.html
>>>
>>>My installation is 6 mb, since I'm installing into 32 mb, I haven't
>>>tried too hard to pair it down. I'm installing on Soekris net4526
>>>boards. Keep in mind there are somethings you can do after you build
>
>
>>>you filesystem with Gentoo to make the install even smaller:
>>>
>>>Remove /usr/include
>>>Remove all .keep files
>>>Audit the rest of the file system for unnecessary files, expecially
>>>/etc and /var
>>>
>>>I have a series of scripts I've written to automate the process
>>>described in the above howto, and I would like to publish them
>>>shortly, but please don't hold your breath. :)
>>>
>>>-Josh
>>>
>>>On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Dennis Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have tried various ways of building a root fs with uClibc, but
>>
>>to
>>
>>>no avail. I have monitored this list long enough to know that
>>>someone
>>
>>>out there has done it. I need to do it for and X86 target that must
>
>
>>>fit in about 1.5 MB of flash that gets copied to RAM and started.
>>>
>>>
>>> The "out of the box" configuration I linked to from the uClibc
>>
>>site
>>
>>>fails in various ways. I like the Gentoo way of doing things, but
>>>the
>>
>>>HOWTO link I saved a while back does not work.
>>>
>>> Any pointers to documents that would help me succeed would be
>>
>>greatly
>>
>>>appreciated.
>>>
>>> Dennis Taylor
>>
>>--
>>gentoo-embedded@gentoo.org mailing list
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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2006-01-23 21:24 [gentoo-embedded] Suitable Email Client - was FAQ / How To? Dennis Taylor
2006-01-23 15:58 ` wireless
@ 2006-01-23 21:36 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-23 21:36 ` Michael
2006-01-24 15:17 ` solar
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From: Henrik Brix Andersen @ 2006-01-23 21:36 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-embedded
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On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 04:24:38PM -0500, Dennis Taylor wrote:
> It must be the email client. Please do not flame me, but for email, I
> am stuck with MS Windows. Does anyone have a suggestion of a client
> that I can put on Windows to enable me to comply with this very
> reasonable request?
I hear Thunderbird is nice.
./Brix
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Gentoo Metadistribution | Mobile computing herd
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* Re: [gentoo-embedded] Suitable Email Client - was FAQ / How To?
2006-01-23 21:24 [gentoo-embedded] Suitable Email Client - was FAQ / How To? Dennis Taylor
2006-01-23 15:58 ` wireless
2006-01-23 21:36 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
@ 2006-01-23 21:36 ` Michael
2006-01-23 21:59 ` Joshua ChaitinPollak
2006-01-24 15:17 ` solar
3 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael @ 2006-01-23 21:36 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-embedded
I think Thunderbird would do... Good question you asked btw!
Greetings,
Michael
Dennis Taylor wrote:
>It must be the email client. Please do not flame me, but for email, I
>am stuck with MS Windows. Does anyone have a suggestion of a client
>that I can put on Windows to enable me to comply with this very
>reasonable request?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: solar [mailto:solar@gentoo.org]
>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:21 PM
>To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org
>Subject: RE: [gentoo-embedded] FAQ / How To?
>
>Please stop creating a brand new thread for every post when it's really
>a RE: to an existing thread. If it's your email client doing it then
>please install a functional one.
>
>
>On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 15:45 -0500, Dennis Taylor wrote:
>
>
>>Well, I blew that one. I decided to start over just in case I had
>>missed something. Unfortunately, I failed to umount portage before I
>>did rm -rf on the staging area. Now, I do not have /usr/portage.
>>Some days are like that. :-(
>>
>>Does anyone know if it is possible to recover just portage without
>>starting all over?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Heath Holcomb [mailto:liquidcable@bulah.com]
>>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 1:32 PM
>>To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org
>>Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] FAQ / How To?
>>
>>I wrote the how-to. I haven't built a system in several weeks, so
>>portage has changed a bit (and ebuilds). I plan on updating the
>>how-to in a week or two, if I discover new problems (looks like there
>>are some).
>>
>>--
>>heath holcomb
>>liquidcable at bulah.com
>>www.bulah.com
>>
>>On Monday 23 January 2006 12:28, Dennis Taylor wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Having followed the other link to
>>>http://www.bulah.com/embedded-guide.html, which seems to be more up
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>date, am still having problems. At step 3 I get the following
>>>
>>>
>>response.
>>
>>
>>>clwsapp07 root # ROOT=/embedded_rootfs emerge -K uclibc Calculating
>>>dependencies !!! There are no packages available to satisfy:
>>>
>>>
>"uclibc"
>
>
>>>!!! Either add a suitable binary package or compile from an ebuild.
>>>
>>>I thought all the previous steps went OK. Even some of the
>>>workarounds seem to no longer be needed. Any ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: Joshua ChaitinPollak [mailto:jpollak@kivasystems.com]
>>>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:16 AM
>>>To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org
>>>Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] FAQ / How To?
>>>
>>>
>>>This is what I use:
>>>
>>>http://www.bulah.com/embeddedgentoo.html
>>>
>>>My installation is 6 mb, since I'm installing into 32 mb, I haven't
>>>tried too hard to pair it down. I'm installing on Soekris net4526
>>>boards. Keep in mind there are somethings you can do after you build
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>you filesystem with Gentoo to make the install even smaller:
>>>
>>>Remove /usr/include
>>>Remove all .keep files
>>>Audit the rest of the file system for unnecessary files, expecially
>>>/etc and /var
>>>
>>>I have a series of scripts I've written to automate the process
>>>described in the above howto, and I would like to publish them
>>>shortly, but please don't hold your breath. :)
>>>
>>>-Josh
>>>
>>>On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Dennis Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have tried various ways of building a root fs with uClibc, but
>>>
>>>
>>to
>>
>>
>>>no avail. I have monitored this list long enough to know that
>>>someone
>>>
>>>
>>>out there has done it. I need to do it for and X86 target that must
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>fit in about 1.5 MB of flash that gets copied to RAM and started.
>>>
>>>
>>> The "out of the box" configuration I linked to from the uClibc
>>>
>>>
>>site
>>
>>
>>>fails in various ways. I like the Gentoo way of doing things, but
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>HOWTO link I saved a while back does not work.
>>>
>>> Any pointers to documents that would help me succeed would be
>>>
>>>
>>greatly
>>
>>
>>>appreciated.
>>>
>>> Dennis Taylor
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>gentoo-embedded@gentoo.org mailing list
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>--
>solar <solar@gentoo.org>
>Gentoo Linux
>
>--
>gentoo-embedded@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>
>
>
>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-embedded] Suitable Email Client - was FAQ / How To?
2006-01-23 21:36 ` Michael
@ 2006-01-23 21:59 ` Joshua ChaitinPollak
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Joshua ChaitinPollak @ 2006-01-23 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-embedded
I looked into this a bit more, it looks like Dennis's version of
Outlook does not include In-Reply-To and References headers in his
emails, but has some other form of reference tracking. I don't know
if Outlook has a compatibility mode, or if newer versions support In-
Reply-To, but a web search should have some info on that.
I'd recommend Thunderbird anyway though.
On Jan 23, 2006, at 4:36 PM, Michael wrote:
> I think Thunderbird would do... Good question you asked btw!
> Greetings,
>
> Michael
>
> Dennis Taylor wrote:
>
>> It must be the email client. Please do not flame me, but for
>> email, I
>> am stuck with MS Windows. Does anyone have a suggestion of a client
>> that I can put on Windows to enable me to comply with this very
>> reasonable request?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: solar [mailto:solar@gentoo.org] Sent: Monday, January 23,
>> 2006 4:21 PM
>> To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org
>> Subject: RE: [gentoo-embedded] FAQ / How To?
>>
>> Please stop creating a brand new thread for every post when it's
>> really
>> a RE: to an existing thread. If it's your email client doing it then
>> please install a functional one.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 15:45 -0500, Dennis Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I blew that one. I decided to start over just in case I
>>> had missed something. Unfortunately, I failed to umount portage
>>> before I did rm -rf on the staging area. Now, I do not have /usr/
>>> portage. Some days are like that. :-(
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if it is possible to recover just portage
>>> without starting all over?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Heath Holcomb [mailto:liquidcable@bulah.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 1:32 PM
>>> To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org
>>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] FAQ / How To?
>>>
>>> I wrote the how-to. I haven't built a system in several weeks,
>>> so portage has changed a bit (and ebuilds). I plan on updating
>>> the how-to in a week or two, if I discover new problems (looks
>>> like there are some).
>>>
>>> --
>>> heath holcomb
>>> liquidcable at bulah.com
>>> www.bulah.com
>>>
>>> On Monday 23 January 2006 12:28, Dennis Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>> Having followed the other link to
>>>> http://www.bulah.com/embedded-guide.html, which seems to be more
>>>> up to
>>>>
>>>> date, am still having problems. At step 3 I get the following
>>>>
>>> response.
>>>
>>>> clwsapp07 root # ROOT=/embedded_rootfs emerge -K uclibc
>>>> Calculating dependencies !!! There are no packages available to
>>>> satisfy:
>>>>
>> "uclibc"
>>
>>>> !!! Either add a suitable binary package or compile from an ebuild.
>>>>
>>>> I thought all the previous steps went OK. Even some of the
>>>> workarounds seem to no longer be needed. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: Joshua ChaitinPollak [mailto:jpollak@kivasystems.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:16 AM
>>>> To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] FAQ / How To?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is what I use:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bulah.com/embeddedgentoo.html
>>>>
>>>> My installation is 6 mb, since I'm installing into 32 mb, I
>>>> haven't tried too hard to pair it down. I'm installing on
>>>> Soekris net4526 boards. Keep in mind there are somethings you
>>>> can do after you build
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>> you filesystem with Gentoo to make the install even smaller:
>>>>
>>>> Remove /usr/include
>>>> Remove all .keep files
>>>> Audit the rest of the file system for unnecessary files,
>>>> expecially /etc and /var
>>>>
>>>> I have a series of scripts I've written to automate the process
>>>> described in the above howto, and I would like to publish them
>>>> shortly, but please don't hold your breath. :)
>>>>
>>>> -Josh
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Dennis Taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have tried various ways of building a root fs with uClibc, but
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> no avail. I have monitored this list long enough to know that
>>>> someone
>>>>
>>>> out there has done it. I need to do it for and X86 target that
>>>> must
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>> fit in about 1.5 MB of flash that gets copied to RAM and started.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The "out of the box" configuration I linked to from the uClibc
>>>>
>>> site
>>>
>>>> fails in various ways. I like the Gentoo way of doing things,
>>>> but the
>>>>
>>>> HOWTO link I saved a while back does not work.
>>>>
>>>> Any pointers to documents that would help me succeed would be
>>>>
>>> greatly
>>>
>>>> appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis Taylor
>>>>
>>> --
>>> gentoo-embedded@gentoo.org mailing list
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> solar <solar@gentoo.org>
>> Gentoo Linux
>>
>> --
>> gentoo-embedded@gentoo.org mailing list
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>
>
--
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Software Engineer
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* RE: [gentoo-embedded] Suitable Email Client - was FAQ / How To?
2006-01-23 21:24 [gentoo-embedded] Suitable Email Client - was FAQ / How To? Dennis Taylor
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2006-01-23 21:36 ` Michael
@ 2006-01-24 15:17 ` solar
3 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: solar @ 2006-01-24 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-embedded
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 16:24 -0500, Dennis Taylor wrote:
> It must be the email client. Please do not flame me, but for email, I
> am stuck with MS Windows.
Yeah I did not mean for you to feel flamed about it. think of it like
this. You are on ~30 mailing lists and see lots of threads everyday. Now
when you have one thread that you see is broken up into several smaller
threads with the same guy at the top of the new Re: thread (aka TOP
POSTING) it's just worth it for me to mention the problem I noticed to
you. In doing so it's more likely that people will read threads you
start when they don't have to sift threw 10 of them.
> Does anyone have a suggestion of a client
> that I can put on Windows to enable me to comply with this very
> reasonable request?
Thunderbird as many others have said.
Also Evolution is being ported to windows. It has alot of the
functionality of outlook but is now maintained by Novell. I have
no idea when that will be finished but based on the unix version, I'd
go in that direction.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: solar [mailto:solar@gentoo.org]
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:21 PM
> To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: RE: [gentoo-embedded] FAQ / How To?
>
> Please stop creating a brand new thread for every post when it's really
> a RE: to an existing thread. If it's your email client doing it then
> please install a functional one.
>
>
> On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 15:45 -0500, Dennis Taylor wrote:
> > Well, I blew that one. I decided to start over just in case I had
> > missed something. Unfortunately, I failed to umount portage before I
> > did rm -rf on the staging area. Now, I do not have /usr/portage.
> > Some days are like that. :-(
> >
> > Does anyone know if it is possible to recover just portage without
> > starting all over?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Heath Holcomb [mailto:liquidcable@bulah.com]
> > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 1:32 PM
> > To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] FAQ / How To?
> >
> > I wrote the how-to. I haven't built a system in several weeks, so
> > portage has changed a bit (and ebuilds). I plan on updating the
> > how-to in a week or two, if I discover new problems (looks like there
> > are some).
> >
> > --
> > heath holcomb
> > liquidcable at bulah.com
> > www.bulah.com
> >
> > On Monday 23 January 2006 12:28, Dennis Taylor wrote:
> > > Having followed the other link to
> > > http://www.bulah.com/embedded-guide.html, which seems to be more up
> > > to
> >
> > > date, am still having problems. At step 3 I get the following
> > response.
> > >
> > > clwsapp07 root # ROOT=/embedded_rootfs emerge -K uclibc Calculating
> > > dependencies !!! There are no packages available to satisfy:
> "uclibc"
> > > !!! Either add a suitable binary package or compile from an ebuild.
> > >
> > > I thought all the previous steps went OK. Even some of the
> > > workarounds seem to no longer be needed. Any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: Joshua ChaitinPollak [mailto:jpollak@kivasystems.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:16 AM
> > > To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org
> > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] FAQ / How To?
> > >
> > >
> > > This is what I use:
> > >
> > > http://www.bulah.com/embeddedgentoo.html
> > >
> > > My installation is 6 mb, since I'm installing into 32 mb, I haven't
> > > tried too hard to pair it down. I'm installing on Soekris net4526
> > > boards. Keep in mind there are somethings you can do after you build
>
> > > you filesystem with Gentoo to make the install even smaller:
> > >
> > > Remove /usr/include
> > > Remove all .keep files
> > > Audit the rest of the file system for unnecessary files, expecially
> > > /etc and /var
> > >
> > > I have a series of scripts I've written to automate the process
> > > described in the above howto, and I would like to publish them
> > > shortly, but please don't hold your breath. :)
> > >
> > > -Josh
> > >
> > > On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Dennis Taylor wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I have tried various ways of building a root fs with uClibc, but
> > to
> > > no avail. I have monitored this list long enough to know that
> > > someone
> >
> > > out there has done it. I need to do it for and X86 target that must
>
> > > fit in about 1.5 MB of flash that gets copied to RAM and started.
> > >
> > >
> > > The "out of the box" configuration I linked to from the uClibc
> > site
> > > fails in various ways. I like the Gentoo way of doing things, but
> > > the
> >
> > > HOWTO link I saved a while back does not work.
> > >
> > > Any pointers to documents that would help me succeed would be
> > greatly
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Dennis Taylor
> >
> > --
> > gentoo-embedded@gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
> >
> >
> --
> solar <solar@gentoo.org>
> Gentoo Linux
>
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>
>
>
>
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