From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ON6mb-00083s-PL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:08:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64751E0B01 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from swip.net (mailfe11.tele2.at [212.247.155.71]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EC1E09F0 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:15:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=JB8BfXx8jToA:10 a=ADBQPqJMlbwA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=PzwwkQbqRRsA:10 a=cBcCMTda2Je+yITLn7JKew==:17 a=DY_z3BwZAAAA:8 a=7mOBRU54AAAA:8 a=vqwxMSwP_Io3qSlUOVwA:9 a=D8zqpHCbWiR0wFW1xk8A:7 a=843dwYouVPWQfMmvefATFFH69eYA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 Received: from [86.32.163.187] (account cxu-8c8-r8b@tele2.at HELO ferdl.home) by mailfe11.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.19) with ESMTPA id 1233762598 for gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:15:08 +0200 Received-SPF: none receiver=mailfe11.swip.net; client-ip=86.32.163.187; envelope-from=marcus@priesch.priv.at Received: from [192.168.2.105] (unknown [192.168.2.105]) by ferdl.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80BD1E43E for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:15:07 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] tzdata & friends From: Marcus Priesch To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: References: <1276167552.2012.591.camel@pr-laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:15:06 +0200 Message-ID: <1276269306.1875.35.camel@pr-laptop> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b7c37626-6e34-476a-be4e-78049442a417 X-Archives-Hash: e8e87d4c5774e5dc917d3fccedfb77a6 Hi Sven, Am Freitag, den 11.06.2010, 10:30 +0200 schrieb Sven Rebhan: > Hmmm, why don't you just update packages selectively like > > emerge -u tzdata yes, but arent chances great that over time ther needs to be a major e.g. python upgrade as the old version just disappeared from the portage tree ?!? > instead of updating everything? Note: leave out the --deep option. > I did this for years on my desktop machine and only updated world > from time to time. Furthermore, you can mask package versions in > $ROOT/etc/portage/package.mask if you really have something > you want to ignore. yes, i know - but same thing as above ... when kernel trees disappear in the portage tree ... you need to upgrade anyway ... thats why i thought of having a seperate portage tree managed ... > Ummm, the way I (and others) do it is building binpkgs in the > cross-compile environment and then update the embedded > system(s) using these binpkgs. This way your customer can > update from your FTP/HTTP/... binpkg server with > emerge -ug . The only thing you have to make > sure is, you either mask all package you don't want them to > update or to provide all updateable packages as binaries. yes but you need a portage tree - and a sync'ed portage tree on the clients to install binpkgs, or ?!? > You might want to have a look at > http://gentoo.mindzoo.de > http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/embedded-cross.git;a=summary thanks a lot - i will give it a try ;) > even though the documentation is a bit outdated. *hint* :) > P.S.: Maybe you also want to join #gentoo-embedded on freenode!?! yes, not now - as i must leave ... but maybe next week ... however, things turned out that i need to have the complete "system" target on my --root installed rootfs (as i need some c python package which wants to compile itself ... ;) and, yes, i love the idea of having a script running for a couple of hours to create a virgin rootfs out of nothing ;))) regards, marcus.