From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fgojs-00016t-5s for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 20:04:52 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4IK5UdG014834; Thu, 18 May 2006 20:05:30 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4IK5THf030144 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 20:05:29 GMT Received: by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix, from userid 721) id 24ECF643CD; Thu, 18 May 2006 20:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:05:28 +0000 To: gentoo-devrel@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-devrel] RFC: etiquette enforcment Message-ID: <20060518200528.GA26398@woodpecker.gentoo.org> References: <446CCDCF.8040502@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-devrel@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-devrel@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <446CCDCF.8040502@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 From: plasmaroo@gentoo.org (Tim Yamin) X-Archives-Salt: 42bbd448-3fb9-42a7-a3c7-3a5967677a51 X-Archives-Hash: 8deae8031f862bc62534eb2d5e8062fa > So, here is my proposal. I hope it's not the only one. > > creation of a etiquette enforcement group. This group should be a > subproject of devrel, but should not be made up of devrel members. I > say this because the actions and powers of this group need to be > separated from devrel. Who will lead the group? Also is the enforcer's powers limited purely to spurs on IRC and mailing lists; i.e. behaviour issues and/or repetitive patterns still go to devrel for discussion; complaints to Bugzilla, etc? > - - enforcer sets modes +q troll for #foobar Devs (well, ops in the channel) have always had this capability; nothing new. Also address problem of enforcer himself being an ass on IRC/MLs, what happens then; we don't want a "that guy did it and he's reponsible for good behaviour so I can do it too" happening... > Sometimes people need a bigger kick in the ass though, which is where a > short term ban helps. When I say a short term ban, I mean 30-90 > minutes. it allows everyone to cool off without them using bad judgment > and popping back in. I do similar enforcement in #-amd64 and it works > very well. ... making sure that said person is informed of the ban, otherwise it might be useless and have no effect. > 1. any and every action that the enforcer uses to enforce etiquette > needs to be immediately and publicly documented. as a start I recommend > sending a email to gentoo-devrel ML. This includes full logs/archive > pointers. gentoo-devrel isn't a database for etiquette violations given that it's archived all over the place. You need a more appropriate place. > 4. if an enforcer has effected a ban on a person/group and the subject > was a time sensitive topic, then the enforcer is obligated to relay > messages verbatim from the person/group for the duration of the ban. Topic such as? And if it's verbatim what's the point of the ban? -- gentoo-devrel@gentoo.org mailing list