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From: plasmaroo@gentoo.org (Tim Yamin)
To: gentoo-devrel@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-devrel] RFC: etiquette enforcment
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:05:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060518200528.GA26398@woodpecker.gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <446CCDCF.8040502@gentoo.org>

> So, here is my proposal.  I hope it's not the only one.
> 
> creation of a etiquette enforcement group.  This group should be a
> subproject of devrel, but should not be made up of devrel members.  I
> say this because the actions and powers of this group need to be
> separated from devrel.

Who will lead the group? Also is the enforcer's powers limited purely to
spurs on IRC and mailing lists; i.e. behaviour issues and/or repetitive
patterns still go to devrel for discussion; complaints to Bugzilla, etc?

> - - enforcer sets modes +q troll for #foobar

Devs (well, ops in the channel) have always had this capability; nothing
new. Also address problem of enforcer himself being an ass on IRC/MLs,
what happens then; we don't want a "that guy did it and he's reponsible
for good behaviour so I can do it too" happening...

> Sometimes people need a bigger kick in the ass though, which is where a
> short term ban helps.  When I say a short term ban, I mean 30-90
> minutes.  it allows everyone to cool off without them using bad judgment
> and popping back in.  I do similar enforcement in #-amd64 and it works
> very well.

... making sure that said person is informed of the ban, otherwise it
might be useless and have no effect.

> 1.  any and every action that the enforcer uses to enforce etiquette
> needs to be immediately and publicly documented.  as a start I recommend
> sending a email to gentoo-devrel ML.  This includes full logs/archive
> pointers.

gentoo-devrel isn't a database for etiquette violations given that it's
archived all over the place. You need a more appropriate place.

> 4.  if an enforcer has effected a ban on a person/group and the subject
> was a time sensitive topic, then the enforcer is obligated to relay
> messages verbatim from the person/group for the duration of the ban.

Topic such as? And if it's verbatim what's the point of the ban?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-18 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-18 19:41 [gentoo-devrel] RFC: etiquette enforcment Mike Doty
2006-05-18 16:01 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-18 20:16   ` Mike Doty
2006-05-18 20:05 ` Tim Yamin [this message]
2006-05-18 20:20   ` Shyam Mani
2006-05-18 20:45   ` Mike Doty
2006-05-18 20:45 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 22:09 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-19 10:20 ` Jan Kundrát

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