From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27245 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2004 14:22:29 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (128.193.0.39) by eagle.gentoo.oregonstate.edu with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 25 Feb 2004 14:22:29 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([128.193.0.34] helo=eagle.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Avzve-00039s-Vv for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:22:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 16814 invoked by uid 50004); 25 Feb 2004 14:22:23 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 31270 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2004 14:22:22 +0000 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <1076987863.15233.27.camel@localhost> <1077714729.9775.20.camel@newkid.milsson.nu> <20040225133509.GA16372@thebrain.conmicro.cx> <200402251340.50215.luke7jr@yahoo.com> <20040225134804.GC16447@thebrain.conmicro.cx> From: "Paul Smith" In-Reply-To: <20040225134804.GC16447@thebrain.conmicro.cx> Reply-To: "Paul Smith" Date: 25 Feb 2004 09:22:16 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license X-Archives-Salt: a3d1a28f-64b7-4bc2-a5d4-4bc422b2be2e X-Archives-Hash: 8e3b4cf7d3b24bdf3ef6b95e8909b235 %% Jay Maynard writes: >> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:12:10PM +0100, John Nilsson wrote: >> > > Because of this decision, the GNU system is not the same as the >> > > collection of all GNU software. The GNU system includes >> > > programs that are not GNU software, programs that were >> > > developed by other people and projects for their own purposes, >> > > but which we can use because they are free software." - Richard >> > > Stallman (http://www.gnu.org/gnu/thegnuproject.html) jm> Stallman's claiming credit for all of Linux, anywhere it appears, jm> just as SCO is climing credot for all of AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, and jm> every other proprietary Unix. None of the distributors you cite jm> are doing that. Please show me where Stallman is claiming credit for "all of Linux, anywhere it appears". Certainly not in the text John quoted above. In fact Stallman has _never_ claimed credit for Linux (the kernel). All he has done is ask (not sue, but ask) that people use the name GNU/Linux to reflect the huge amount of effort the GNU project has expended over the years that make Linux distributions, including Gentoo, a reality. You may not agree with that, but it's his right to make the request just as it's your right to refuse... and no one is going to court about it. And _no one_ is claiming ownership over things they don't own or didn't write, so please drop the SCO flame-bait. Here is what the quoted document actually _does_ say about Linux, BTW: > Linux and GNU/Linux > > The GNU Hurd is not ready for production use. Fortunately, another > kernel is available. In 1991, Linus Torvalds developed a > Unix-compatible kernel and called it Linux. Around 1992, combining > Linux with the not-quite-complete GNU system resulted in a complete > free operating system. (Combining them was a substantial job in > itself, of course.) It is due to Linux that we can actually run a > version of the GNU system today. > > We call this system version GNU/Linux, to express its composition as a > combination of the GNU system with Linux as the kernel. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul D. Smith HASMAT--HA Software Mthds & Tools "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list