From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F5231382C5 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 14:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21C46E087B; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 14:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8529E084E for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 14:56:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Ulrich Mueller To: Thomas Deutschmann Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Should we switch IRC client defaults off Freenode? In-Reply-To: <580ecf35-48bb-028f-73c7-ae5902b0a901@gentoo.org> (Thomas Deutschmann's message of "Wed, 16 Jun 2021 15:46:08 +0200") References: <580ecf35-48bb-028f-73c7-ae5902b0a901@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 16:56:09 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: c7a9ed98-db7a-4f02-a32f-e2120b15b625 X-Archives-Hash: 65ef20ee02c310c0497fbf315ac7ca23 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > On 2021-06-16 13:28, Michal Pr=C3=ADvozn=C3=ADk wrote: >> Why should we mangle with packages this way? I mean, to me Gentoo was >> one of the few distros that allowed real choice for users (systemd vs >> openrc, selinux or !selinux, etc.). We shouldn't be making choices on >> behalf of users. The best we can do is to open issues for whatever IRC >> client we have in portage to switch from freenode to something different. >> BTW: not everybody is switching from freenode to libera.chat. > I second that. > Adding *our* network is one thing, like adding branding, but removing > stuff we don't like is going to far. *sigh* Please read my answer again. I haven't suggested that Freenode should be removed, but my answer was misrepresented in the message you're replying to. Ulrich --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFDBAEBCAAtFiEEtDnZ1O9xIP68rzDbUYgzUIhBXi4FAmDKEQkPHHVsbUBnZW50 b28ub3JnAAoJEFGIM1CIQV4u92oIAMfMrsIs3phNPBnzv7E978BCT8FQYzyaAy8q O/PyHHQdDg2kBAU7TRbmBObPiZaD9tja78167+6bOjY3NdF6rmKsNZQ2RgrjRvWH 72H8YsJVYurq8AYHyjK+x1zVE0j3EqXLpVK1BGzcrA19aJWr4hUf4FvoAg+kC6Rg gyoWRHsAa7o9Izpry+Z5GH3fGhIjEGqc7UHvNo/8RXW2owocrzX/MYxpdOh1GW7R 9hd4YoLpVsxR0wo5IjdzcMpX6rqbVhSdyl+JRrnInXq8aus5sRdy70CMk5p7gYq/ AjWx3EopIFjJihUa8yU7oSRM0Vdi990+UCzS1C9JZX8X3Hfox6Y= =IsNc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--