From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EE281382C5 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 07:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02B19E0863; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 07:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB5A0E0837 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 07:58:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Ulrich Mueller To: =?utf-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] 'pax_kernel' USE flag In-Reply-To: <4521f5c24a79f1aaa04855e76df217c2bc5ced35.camel@gentoo.org> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny=22's?= message of "Wed, 23 Jun 2021 08:49:33 +0200") References: <5949bc49-b508-6686-f8e4-e85f59f70423@gentoo.org> <44e25199-689f-3068-aafb-95d4b32c097e@gentoo.org> <4521f5c24a79f1aaa04855e76df217c2bc5ced35.camel@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 09:58:22 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: dd88f3ed-6430-4832-99da-669e7d1593d5 X-Archives-Hash: 36e2a2f2cf3d32718e54bfa9b5f39f11 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> On Wed, 23 Jun 2021, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: >> It's just not available for everyone for free/without registration=20 >> anymore. But it is still a thing in Gentoo. > Your comment makes it sounds like 'just registering' is an option. > The website seems to disagree with that, pretty clearly saying it's > a yearly subscription. How much? They don't say but it's reasonable to > assume it's a steep price. Wouldn't be surprised if people are > forbidden from saying. Apparently it was $17k per year, in 2016: https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2016-05/msg00114.html > But even if they offered me a free copy I wouldn't take it. They have > violated the principles of GPL and harmed the FLOSS world. If you care > about open source, you wouldn't pay them a broken penny. If you do, you > just support their actions and soon enough more GPL projects will figure > out that they can steal all their contributions and declare themselves > 'keep paying and do not share the code as GPL permits you to'. This has been discussed at length, and I don't think we need to reiterate it here. My point was that most developers cannot test if the pax_kernel flag in a given package does what it should. IMHO the consequence is that we can no longer consider PaX a supported configuration. Ulrich --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFDBAEBCAAtFiEEtDnZ1O9xIP68rzDbUYgzUIhBXi4FAmDS6Z4PHHVsbUBnZW50 b28ub3JnAAoJEFGIM1CIQV4u23wIAIb+tgXWnEAnBlwE3DZcf65ATJ5JbXYLPlno rY30pNvU694tcOTBuUD5CM327YJBoiDb2iF+izn8rEjBI2oB2qP6Pt/M1y+3qgfF 9rcgdSUUQxV3YToB/j6T2fDUl1zvvRdX9+yrU3VUQuuYNTY5NA25holKtuq2yRjy 3WTdaUL4fcbA/RkGRaeJlYt8wM2iPKbh9FYV5ZcXzLiDA8VdMkFUAAB4uBymwy3h ZGqTTziJkoh0yvByKc4cpeaTuVvn2arvI+2rvnZZKKJKmn6QBySLeRNNbHH05V+Q PFhcB1msgXB2sOG4t1Bxe1ZyY3rviN/At1fMNRnSQiosPdYG0Ao= =5dsf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--