Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Should we switch IRC client defaults off Freenode?

[Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>]

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>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021, Michal Prívozník wrote:

>>> 1. Should we be proactively changing the default network in IRC clients
>>> (provided they have one) from Freenode to Libera.chat
>> 
>> Yes. IMHO Freenode is no longer a reasonable default.

> Why should we mangle with packages this way? I mean, to me Gentoo was
> one of the few distros that allowed real choice for users (systemd vs
> openrc, selinux or !selinux, etc.). We shouldn't be making choices on
> behalf of users. The best we can do is to open issues for whatever IRC
> client we have in portage to switch from freenode to something
> different.

This is merely about the _default_ network, not about taking away any
choices from users.

See my answer to question 2 (which you've conveniently omitted,
therefore restoring it here):

>>> 2. Should we be proactively *removing* Freenode from the network list
>>> in IRC clients (provided they have one)?
>> 
>> No (but also don't re-add it if upstream decided to remove it).

> BTW: not everybody is switching from freenode to libera.chat.

A default is never about everybody, but about providing a good
configuration for the majority of users.

Ulrich

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