From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E28B158041 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 10:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C956E2B2D; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 10:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE7D7E2A4B for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 10:09:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Ulrich Mueller To: =?utf-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo In-Reply-To: <076b8ede8f3e2d6d49571d516132a96a08b4d591.camel@gentoo.org> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny=22's?= message of "Wed, 28 Feb 2024 04:12:47 +0100") References: <076b8ede8f3e2d6d49571d516132a96a08b4d591.camel@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 11:08:57 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: ace312ca-24db-4ce0-85f7-a50460b44d88 X-Archives-Hash: 45739eeb2e4839231d508aeed50de3ec --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Tue, 2024-02-27 at 21:05 -0600, Oskari Pirhonen wrote: >> What about cases where someone, say, doesn't have an excellent grasp of >> English and decides to use, for example, ChatGPT to aid in writing >> documentation/comments (not code) and puts a note somewhere explicitly >> mentioning what was AI-generated so that someone else can take a closer >> look? >>=20 >> I'd personally not be the biggest fan of this if it wasn't in something >> like a PR or ml post where it could be reviewed before being made final. >> But the most impportant part IMO would be being up-front about it. > I'm afraid that wouldn't help much. From my experiences, it would be > less effort for us to help writing it from scratch, than trying to > untangle whatever verbose shit ChatGPT generates. Especially that > a person with poor grasp of the language could have trouble telling > whether the generated text is actually meaningful. But where do we draw the line? Are translation tools like DeepL allowed? I don't see much of a copyright issue for these. Ulrich [1] https://www.deepl.com/translator --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFDBAEBCAAtFiEEtDnZ1O9xIP68rzDbUYgzUIhBXi4FAmXfBjkPHHVsbUBnZW50 b28ub3JnAAoJEFGIM1CIQV4uwVUH/3YP1Lm4hTixRX3MynPCLB/KDMTFuXX+khK6 Obb2waiBlFziQSwAI3MoMHF0MB6LRRFsU03IIMcn9zyFt2JugMezXmFSv6JyDB1j ihOBlKIW3va/dRKsZ5XLiqY9A5c0/SgK/vVCS6xGJsp95JY05YqMDPNyHFCfgH+Y gx0qr0XM5RpQkI80L2HUgIJQ9LDKleEk9KpSzRNQxESS+fW6ORL3mj4UefT1QQH1 beDq33QTnOuH1YbOzjvnies6TjVrzjsQGmpSvTwgrkPdyIuGKWSZroFI83lUjXUe p7DjHcxZULwFjXdWqXDjnw64pYlqKFit/E+oEPLa0koUH5Tsa+E= =Lldm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--