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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
To: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 11:08:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u1q8wnbnq@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <076b8ede8f3e2d6d49571d516132a96a08b4d591.camel@gentoo.org> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny=22's?= message of "Wed, 28 Feb 2024 04:12:47 +0100")

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>>>>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024, Michał Górny wrote:

> On Tue, 2024-02-27 at 21:05 -0600, Oskari Pirhonen wrote:
>> What about cases where someone, say, doesn't have an excellent grasp of
>> English and decides to use, for example, ChatGPT to aid in writing
>> documentation/comments (not code) and puts a note somewhere explicitly
>> mentioning what was AI-generated so that someone else can take a closer
>> look?
>> 
>> I'd personally not be the biggest fan of this if it wasn't in something
>> like a PR or ml post where it could be reviewed before being made final.
>> But the most impportant part IMO would be being up-front about it.

> I'm afraid that wouldn't help much.  From my experiences, it would be
> less effort for us to help writing it from scratch, than trying to
> untangle whatever verbose shit ChatGPT generates.  Especially that
> a person with poor grasp of the language could have trouble telling
> whether the generated text is actually meaningful.

But where do we draw the line? Are translation tools like DeepL allowed?
I don't see much of a copyright issue for these.

Ulrich

[1] https://www.deepl.com/translator

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-28 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-27 14:45 [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo Michał Górny
2024-02-27 15:10 ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-02-27 15:21 ` Kenton Groombridge
2024-02-27 15:31   ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2024-02-27 16:11 ` Marek Szuba
2024-02-27 16:29   ` Sam James
2024-02-27 16:48 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-02-27 17:02 ` Ionen Wolkens
2024-02-27 17:41 ` Rich Freeman
2024-02-27 18:07   ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-02-27 18:27     ` Kenton Groombridge
2024-02-27 17:46 ` Matthias Maier
2024-02-27 17:50 ` Roy Bamford
2024-02-27 18:40   ` Peter Böhm
2024-02-27 18:04 ` Sam James
2024-03-09 14:57   ` Michał Górny
2024-02-27 19:17 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-28  3:05 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2024-02-28  3:12   ` Michał Górny
2024-02-28 10:08     ` Ulrich Mueller [this message]
2024-02-28 11:06       ` Matt Jolly
2024-02-28 20:20         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-03-01  7:06         ` Sam James
2024-03-09 15:00           ` Michał Górny
2024-02-28 13:09       ` Michał Górny
2024-02-28 10:34 ` David Seifert
2024-02-28 18:50 ` Arthur Zamarin
2024-02-28 19:26   ` Rich Freeman
2024-03-01  6:33 ` Zoltan Puskas
2024-03-05  6:12 ` Robin H. Johnson
2024-03-06  6:53   ` Oskari Pirhonen
2024-03-08  3:59   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2024-03-09 15:04     ` Michał Górny
2024-03-09 21:13       ` Duncan
2024-03-10  1:53         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-03-06 13:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " martin-kokos
2024-03-08  7:09 ` Fco. Javier Felix Belmonte
2024-03-21 15:25 ` Michał Górny
2024-04-15 19:50   ` Jérôme Carretero

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