From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D729D13877A for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97017E0D79; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE934E0C83 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED66134009D for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:25:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.496 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.496 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.207, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79ZBzkD3nztQ for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:25:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1815E340092 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XB2um-00041M-L8 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:25:36 +0200 Received: from epidot.math.uni-rostock.de ([139.30.30.47]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:25:36 +0200 Received: from martin by epidot.math.uni-rostock.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:25:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Martin Vaeth Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org> <53CD8BBA.2010605@gentoo.org> <20140723013624.5f289194@gentoo.org> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: epidot.math.uni-rostock.de User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.0-18 (Linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Archives-Salt: d853b66f-20e9-4ceb-8c84-04c365d72573 X-Archives-Hash: 917da3d2a953714b5310da8a6315c7e0 Tom Wijsman wrote: > Michael Palimaka wrote: > >> What a great way to kill the distro. >> >> I can already heat my house with the number of unnecessary rebuilds > > Do you upgrade @world every hour and thus have it cause excessive heat? > > If I upgrade every X weeks they become much more cool and necessary... One of the main advantages of gentoo is the flowing upgrade, especially since this can only be very poorly emulated by a binary distro. If you really suggest that the user waits one month and then recompiles the whole installation, you give up this advantage of gentoo: The user is not up-to-date for a long time, and moreover, then needs practically a full reinstall; both are things which he wants to avoid and why perhaps he has chosen gentoo in the first place. At least, for me it is the case: if I have to reinstall all packages every months - and even have delay in security updates for a month - I will certainly switch the distribution. I guess many others think similarly.