From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D174F1381F3 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41366E09FF; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A77FE09F1 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559DB33EB32 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:45:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.145 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.145 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.142, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d94ZH4mKQH6n for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8622333EA75 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V7UGr-0003Ug-Eg for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:45:09 +0200 Received: from lounge.imp.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.42.83]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:45:09 +0200 Received: from vaeth by lounge.imp.fu-berlin.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:45:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Martin Vaeth Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: KDE/semantic-desktop Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:44:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5202416C.5@gentoo.org> < CAMUzOag6DkLLn7OpBRhkHsRGFWOjvMv_WDrT+cm0S-bewT=JhQ@mail.gmail.com> <201308080905.52472.dilfridge@gentoo.org> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lounge.imp.fu-berlin.de User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.0-26 (Linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Archives-Salt: d221de8e-aa13-4a42-94c7-e6083c4b30d7 X-Archives-Hash: 0ed7ac6d25bab4d27915bfdef058790d Sorry for reposting: Somehow the first line got lost making the whole posting not understandable... Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > answer is about 10 additional megs of ram at idle > and about 2 extra seconds to boot. ..and two huge database servers which lots of disk and ram space and a huge waste of compile time (not so much for KDE but more for the databases), opening to all sort of possible attacks by bugs in these databases whose servers need to be running etc. I doubt that if you count these servers the difference is only 10 megs. And on my machines with 512 MB RAM also losing 10 megs of RAM for nothing (well - for increasing the attack vector) is an issue. For "Take the full bloat or nothing" one can better choose a binary distribution.