From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AE51381F3 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB20AE09B1; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:00:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 024A4E0957 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA3933EB92 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:00:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.169 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.169 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.166, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oF_hC9Bn5gon for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:00:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E1DD33EB4A for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V7Rh5-0007me-PH for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 17:00:03 +0200 Received: from lounge.imp.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.42.83]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 17:00:03 +0200 Received: from vaeth by lounge.imp.fu-berlin.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 17:00:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Martin Vaeth Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: KDE/semantic-desktop Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5202416C.5@gentoo.org> < CAMUzOag6DkLLn7OpBRhkHsRGFWOjvMv_WDrT+cm0S-bewT=JhQ@mail.gmail.com> <201308080905.52472.dilfridge@gentoo.org> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lounge.imp.fu-berlin.de User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.0-26 (Linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Archives-Salt: 8015ed0e-1e4f-4b78-8d30-e0063e3a7f98 X-Archives-Hash: 7db832d18a9c226abb43ad016eed6b45 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > answer is about 10 additional megs of ram at idle > and about 2 extra seconds to boot. huge waste of compile time (not so much for KDE but more for the databases), opening to all sort of possible attacks by bugs in these databases whose servers need to be running etc. I doubt that if you count these servers the difference is only 10 megs. And on my machines with 512 MB RAM also losing 10 megs of RAM for nothing (well - for increasing the attack vector) is an issue. For "Take the full bloat or nothing" one can better choose a binary distribution.