[gentoo-dev] Corrections to install guide - Comments, suggestions ;)

[gentoo-dev] Corrections to install guide - Comments, suggestions ;)

[Jarrett Heale]

Hi guys. I just failed miserably to give you an ANSI thumbs up...

I've been using gentoo since 1.1a and, well, you guys know how great it is. Just a couple of little corrections for the install guide...

First things first. What's what in the download directory? I have a P3, so I could grab the i686 p3 one (oh wait - not an iso - nevermind) I always prefer to grab the x86 stage3 iso so I can install from scratch or stage3 on Many different computers... guess I'm just not sure what to download here. Maybe stick a text file in that directory to describe all those files?

In "2.Booting" the sentence "You should have a root ("#") prompt on the current console, and can also open new
consoles by typing alt-f2, alt-f3, etc and then hitting enter." appears at the end of both paragraphs. Is that on purpose?

Just under code listing 7 (manual static config) there's a note: At the moment the only editors installed by default are nano. Yet in the announcement for 1.4 you say you have vi (a great thing). should it say "...editors installed by default are vi and nano, a small ..." or should it say "...editor_ installed by default is nano..." ? I thought 1.2 had vi, but while installing only nano worked.

Networking is go! (not a mistake - just funny :) Loved the Thunderbirds!

How come it's "emerge sync" now instead of "emerge rsync"? (starting in the second "Important:" in "9.Unpack the stage you want to use" and on)

{Not a correction: What's wrong with grsecurity? (I thought it was gre security - like generic router encapsulation - just goes to show what I know) I thought it was a good thing! The help files in the kernel recommend it... Is this a 1.4 issue or should I disable it on my 1.2 box running X?}

I know your warning under code listing 28 has not changed in a long time, but the option "Device File System" isn't called that. I think it's devfs or something (might want to verify) - that was confusing for a newbie!! Also, could you through in a line about how to get iptables? THAT took me forever to find - and I still have no clue what I should enable with it. All I know is when I apply my settings (I use guarddog to setup my iptables rules) the same error (something like "match/rule/table not found") happens like 50 times. Isn't iptables 80% of why linux is more secure than the leading brand?

wth is a cron? I take it if you don't know you don't install one? Or should I grab vcron anyway? (as per "If you don't know which one to choose, you might as well grab vcron")

"Fully qualified domain name". Hmmm. I really don't know! I called my box hal. That's all I know. To network with windows machines do we need to use the same domain? We're behind a freesco linux dialup gateway router (using NAT - IP masquerading) so we're all 192.168..... do we have to use domain names? This always confused me. About the note under code listing 38, you mean change localhost to hal for the loopback 127.0.0.1?

That's about it. Thanks a lot for your time (if you read this, and especially if you respond!) but thanks even more for the excellent distribution!

Jarrett Heale
Network Services Section
RCMP - Royal Canadian Mounted Police (the mounties to the unlearned ;)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Corrections to install guide - Comments, suggestions ;)

[jsykari]

Just two quick answers:

"Jarrett Heale" <Jarrett.Heale@rcmp-grc.gc.ca> writes:
> wth is a cron? I take it if you don't know you don't install one? Or should I grab vcron anyway? (as per "If you don't know which one to choose, you might as well grab vcron")

Please see http://www.unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html for an
introduction to cron. Most distributions like to build their locate databases
(see locate(1) and friends) automatically with cron, in gentoo it's up to you.

> "Fully qualified domain name". Hmmm. I really don't know!

An internet-wide host name like kosh.hut.fi.
For a precise definition, see http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/F/FQDN.html

A.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Corrections to install guide - Comments, suggestions ;)

[Christian Bartl]

On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 22:06, jsykari@cs191238.pp.htv.fi wrote:
> 
> Just two quick answers:
> 
> "Jarrett Heale" <Jarrett.Heale@rcmp-grc.gc.ca> writes:
> > wth is a cron? I take it if you don't know you don't install one? Or should I grab vcron anyway? (as per "If you don't know which one to choose, you might as well grab vcron")
> 
> Please see http://www.unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html for an
> introduction to cron. Most distributions like to build their locate databases
> (see locate(1) and friends) automatically with cron, in gentoo it's up to you.
> 
> > "Fully qualified domain name". Hmmm. I really don't know!
> 
> An internet-wide host name like kosh.hut.fi.
> For a precise definition, see http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/F/FQDN.html

that sounds very helpful. As far as I know it is not important what you
enter here. If you want to access your other PCs you can use the IP or
you add them to your /etc/hosts.
Your hostname also has nothing to do with the netbios-name and
NT-Domain-/Workgroup-Name. Both are entered in /etc/samba/smb.conf (if
you use samba)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Corrections to install guide - Comments, suggestions ;)

[Christian Bartl]

On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 20:55, Jarrett Heale wrote:
> How come it's "emerge sync" now instead of "emerge rsync"?
both works

> 
> Also, could you through in a line about how to get iptables? 
> THAT took me forever to find - and I still have no clue what I should
> enable with it.  All I know is when I apply my settings (I use
> guarddog to setup my iptables rules) the same error (something like
> "match/rule/table not found") happens like 50 times. 
emerge iptables??? 
if you mean your kernel-config: 
make menuconfig, 
Network options --> Network packet filtering
Network options --> IP: Netfilter Configuration -->
read the help-entries to each item if you don't know what they are
needed for.
I'm not your opinion that that info should be in the inst.-guide. If you
need more information - there are many tutorials about iptables - which
I suggest you to read. 
I don't know guarddog - sounds like a frontend for iptables. You want
security? - Write your own netfilter-rules. It's not as hard it looks.
There are many many samples in the www. The first time it will take 2
days to configure it and then you exactly know what your rules do and
you will feel much more secure!

> Isn't iptables 80% of why linux is more secure than the leading brand?
a WELL CONFIGURED netfilter is one point to get security


> wth is a cron? I take it if you don't know you don't install one? Or 
> should I grab vcron anyway? (as per "If you don't know which one to
> choose, you might as well grab vcron")
... I am silent

> 
> That's about it. Thanks a lot for your time (if you read this, and
Mhm, it takes a long time to scroll through these horribly long lines.

Regards,
Christian