On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 08:41:21PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2021, Robin H Johnson wrote: > > > RedHat's legal team clearly know something there that they aren't > > disclosing the details of publicly, because the patches said the > > patents expire in 2020, but when I asked off-list if EC could be > > re-enabled based on the expiry dates in the files, they claimed that > > patent issues were still present, without giving any detail. > > If there are remaining patent issues then they should be able to support > their claim by facts, like a patent number. Why would this be difficult, > or what reason would they have not to disclose it? I don't have any answer from them, but my own research did turn up a few current patents around EC (sorted by expiry): US8462944B2 exp 2021-12-26 US8189772B2 exp 2023-05-28 US9160530B2 exp 2024-10-28 US8213605B2 exp 2025-11-14 US10756893B2 exp 2026-01-23 US10284370B2 exp 2026-03-03 US20100023775A1 exp 2031-08-02 US8631240B2 exp 2031-08-02 US8572367B2 exp 2031-12-25 US8918648B2 exp 2032-01-31 US10079673B2 exp 2032-02-15 ** not specifically EC, more general about Entropy US9800418B2 exp 2035-07-17 IANAL, but the difficult question is: does any open-source end up implementing those algorithms? -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Treasurer E-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85 GnuPG FP : 7D0B3CEB E9B85B1F 825BCECF EE05E6F6 A48F6136