From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S7Bjc-0001X9-66 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:20:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4EC1E0E20; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FCFE0DE4 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from grubbs.orbis-terrarum.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35FD81B405C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22894 invoked by uid 10000); 12 Mar 2012 20:20:08 -0000 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:20:08 +0000 From: "Robin H. Johnson" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Change mail-mta/msmtp to be the default in virtual/mta instead of mail-mta/ssmtp ? Message-ID: References: <4F5E5794.8050004@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F5E5794.8050004@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 70d05c11-d56d-4d5a-a90f-6f3520814b27 X-Archives-Hash: f5e684936ff8790cfebbfed9004a34ee On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:07:48PM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: > ssmtp has been quiet project for quite a while, where as msmtp is > maintained one. > > sure, ssmtp might be just mature, but msmtp is equally small and has > more features. > > any thoughts? +1 to getting rid of ssmtp. But I'm not sure that msmtp is the best replacement. One of the greatest things that bugs me about ssmtp is that if the mailserver is not available, it hangs for a while, and then it loses the email. Where I need a simple mail relay, I've gone with nullmailer instead, because it supports the features, and it explicitly has a lightweight daemon mode that queues mail to send. -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee & Infrastructure Lead E-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85