[gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

[Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>]

Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:26:53 +0200 as
excerpted:

> Olivier Crête schrieb:
>> Can we also have a desktop that doesn't use X?
> 
> Yes, through Wayland or DirectFB.

<aol>Me too!</aol>

Seriously, they're working on it, ubuntu already has a target switch-to 
date (tho it's predicted to slip, but it /does/ make for faster 
progress), qt is planning to support it with qt5(point-something) and 
preliminary support is there already, same with kde frameworks (aka kde5) 
altho AFAIK it's mostly just kwin/plasma dev experiments ATM, and I 
believe gnome support may actually be further along than kde, especially 
with ubuntu pushing it, given that they still use the gnome foundations 
with unity.

That's WAY farther along than any of the previous efforts toward 
replacing X on (other than embedded/Android) Linux got, and it actually 
looks like it's going to happen this time.

So give it a couple years, but it's coming.

Actually, wayland's exactly the thing I had in mind in my "five years" 
post as the next likely "worldview disrupter".  I think X will still be 
around in five years, but it'll be "legacy" for many, maybe most.  I 
don't know that the full implications of the switch to wayland can be 
predicted at this point, /I'm/ certainly not going to attempt it, and 
it's quite possible that as a result of that shift, systemd will look as 
"wrong solution for the wrong problem" as hal ended up looking.  But the 
only way to know is to live thru it and see where the experience takes us.

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