From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B00713800E for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B96B6E077E; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB8EE0698 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D713B1B4008 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:53:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.493 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.493 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.481, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rbu8vrmLCsZA for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12AC51B400C for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SzhDk-00009P-4x for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 06:53:12 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 06:53:12 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 06:53:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: pid 1 design Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1344366029.24762.31.camel@TesterTop4> <502377E7.8010803@gentoo.org> <20120809140228.18316.qmail@stuge.se> <5023DE6B.9010001@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT 1f91845 /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) X-Archives-Salt: 319447d9-4cf2-400c-9124-58295733ea11 X-Archives-Hash: 43bd97e7dacff84c22ce4d6e9c9da63f Luca Barbato posted on Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:59:39 +0200 as excerpted: > Yet I'm not used to have to reboot after issuing emerge -u world and > most of the times I don't have even to restart X... I suppose if you just use emerge -u @world, are running stable, and possibly don't care about services using old-version libs... If you're running ~arch, prefer emerge -NuD @world, and do a lib_users or the like after updates, at least here, I've found it's often easier to simply reboot, than to restart X/KDE and half a dozen services, even if I could in theory avoid the full reboot. That -D makes a big difference, tho, and -N of course compounds it. Between that and the more frequent updates on ~arch... But of course I'm usually running a live-git kernel too, so that just gives me even more excuse to do a git pull and a kernel rebuild before the reboot too, so as to get the new kernel as well. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman