From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SqBvl-0000jt-WD for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:39:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 794CAE057F; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA45AE070C for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADA81B414D for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:38:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.473 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.473 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.561, BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V5sXK1FvGUXt for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB8D71B401D for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SqBuo-0006vs-Hw for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 01:38:22 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 01:38:22 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 01:38:22 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20120712200741.GB3723@waltdnes.org> <20120712222931.GA3044@linux1> <20120713200449.GA6292@waltdnes.org> <50008143.3050708@gentoo.org> <20120714001343.GA6879@waltdnes.org> <20120714031327.GA8799@linux1> <20120714210221.30059.qmail@stuge.se> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT 014d082 /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: bf8f4685-1f4f-4a9b-86b1-bbcde1570083 X-Archives-Hash: 467a1b851eaa236f3bcc3ad29ab41e53 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s posted on Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:29:19 -0500 a= s excerpted: > If your /usr is in the same partition as /, then udev and systemd > supports your configuration *without* an initramfs. I have it like that > in a couple of servers, and actually I only use an initramfs in my > laptop and desktop because I like plymouth. >=20 > If your /usr is in a separate partition as /, and you don't want to use > an initramfs, you're free to do so. Only then udev (and systemd, > if you use it) will not support your configuration, and any problem you > encounter will be ignored in their mailing lists/bugzillas. BTW, any "gentooish" documentation out there on rootfs as tmpfs, with=20 /etc and the like mounted on top of it, operationally ro, rw remounted=20 for updates? That's obviously going to take an initr*, which I've never really=20 understood to the point I'm comfortable with my ability to recover from=20 problems so I've not run one since my Mandrake era, but that's a status=20 that can change, and what with the /usr move and some computer problems I= =20 just finished dealing with, I've been thinking about the possibility=20 lately. So if there's some good docs on the topic someone can point me=20 at, I'd be grateful. =3D:^) I'm aware of the issues with /etc/mtab and have googled a bit on the=20 workarounds, but that looks like a decent amount of work, and if I'm=20 going to do that, I might as well invest the time and do it right, initr*= ,=20 full tmpfs rootfs with everything non-volatile mounted on top, the whole=20 shebang! --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman