From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SpYur-0004O7-2h for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:59:49 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FA90E011E; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E598E0663 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AFD1B4091 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:58:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.475 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.475 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.563, BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65mMXkS91h7M for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E4A11B4018 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SpYtg-0003lY-6W for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:58:36 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:58:36 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:58:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4FFC813B.7090501@gentoo.org> <20120711091510.52b44e08@pomiocik.lan> <4FFD7949.4000204@gentoo.org> <20120712034036.GA2439@waltdnes.org> <4FFED31D.9010505@gentoo.org> <20120712200741.GB3723@waltdnes.org> <20120712222931.GA3044@linux1> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT 014d082 /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: a47e914a-46f8-4801-a954-8da09ee0113a X-Archives-Hash: 4b7867fd32f33a087dbe4e3e7f2ccaa0 William Hubbs posted on Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:29:31 -0500 as excerpted: >> And make sure that >> /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug points to udev. >=20 > If you are using udev, /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug should be empty; do not > point this to udev. Yes. I've not changed that setting from whatever the default is, and I=20 guess udev moved its hook out from there quite some time ago so it's=20 pointing at nothing, but having that actually point to something is known= =20 in kernel circles to lead to a lot of unnecessary grief. They're=20 seriously thinking about (and may be planning on) removing that option=20 from the kernel entirely, to keep people configuring their first kernels=20 from getting themselves in trouble, but of course that's now part of the=20 kernel/userspace interface, so it isn't allowed to just disappear like=20 kernel/kernel interfaces can. At minimum they'd likely have to have it=20 on the deprecation and removal schedule for awhile. (I've not checked to= =20 see if it's there already.) --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman