From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SoqWw-0008T4-Df for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:36:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A3B0E06B7; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CBEE0262 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22DB1B405E for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:34:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.476 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.476 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.564, BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hy8ERs3micYe for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A688F1B4015 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SoqVB-0006Di-Np for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:34:21 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:34:21 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:34:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 06:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20120710171800.493a7c4c@pomiocik.lan> <4FFC813B.7090501@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 884ab9f9-a35f-4659-9d28-69c6bf512e2d X-Archives-Hash: 4ddde72b4809a3f8a8c773a9ee3ab857 Ben de Groot posted on Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:51:50 +0800 as excerpted: > When upstream moved the udev sources to the systemd repo, they promised > that udev would continue to be able to be used separately from systemd. > We should hold them to that promise. >=20 > If they break their promise (as it seems they are bent on doing), then > we should go ahead with the fork as discussed earlier. I'm sure other > distros such as Debian and Slackware would be happy to join us in that > effort. Given the size of debian, I'd guess we'd likely be joining them, rather=20 than the other way around, tho slack would I'd guess be joining us... Regardless, I agree with the point, and yes, debian at least will=20 certainly be doing something as they have non-linux to worry about too,=20 tho OTOH they move slow enough they might indeed be joining us, size or=20 no size. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman