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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: My wishlist for EAPI 5
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 23:09:18 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan.2012.06.23.23.09.18@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAGfcS_mkEx-YyQJHf2Rr9pcYe3NNxiFLX4phEPAHoLyy3B4QYg@mail.gmail.com

Rich Freeman posted on Sat, 23 Jun 2012 07:12:29 -0400 as excerpted:

> You can't fix it by beating people up.

Volunteers do it on their own terms... or don't do it.  The outliers can 
be moderated to some degree and thankfully the list isn't what it once 
was, but get too strict and people simply find other things to do.  Of 
course there's a line where letting them find something else to do is 
best, and some have crossed it, but...

> 1.  While perhaps a different leader might give people a warmer feeling
> about it, I think many of these issues are just inherent to the nature
> of the problem - PM features don't write themselves.  Others might
> disagree, and that is fine.
> 
> 2.  I don't see anybody else stepping up.

Good points.  (Whole post actually, but snipped for brevity.)  To some 
extent, the job of coordinating PMS is going to be a (nearly) thankless 
task, and it does take a specific kind of person to keep at it.  Not 
everybody's cut out for it.  You're right, others /aren't/ stepping up 
for it and I can't blame them.  Thanks for pointing out what we likely 
all knew if we thought about it, but many (me included) sometimes forget.


Back to my original point, tho.  Seeing people working on other PMs make 
the point as well, helps, and I hope to see both a bit more of that and 
more reminders of it in other subthreads/replies, where appropriate.  I 
know that helps me keep a bit better perspective. =:^)

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman




  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-23 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-20 20:25 [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5 Richard Yao
2012-06-20 20:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:50   ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 20:54     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:02       ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 21:10         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:05       ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 21:12         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:34           ` Richard Yao
2012-06-21  8:29     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-06-21  9:23       ` Richard Yao
2012-06-22  0:38       ` Richard Yao
2012-06-22  5:30         ` Duncan
2012-06-22  5:55         ` Michał Górny
2012-06-22  6:20         ` Ben de Groot
2012-06-20 21:43   ` [gentoo-dev] " Justin
2012-06-21  6:08     ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21  7:00       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21  7:25         ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21  7:39           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23  7:53             ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23  9:38               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23  9:53                 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 10:24                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:30                     ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:31                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:05                       ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 11:14                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:38                           ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 11:37                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:52                               ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 11:59                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:16                                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 12:21                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:11                               ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 12:16                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:33                                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:37                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-06-23 10:43                   ` Duncan
2012-06-23 10:44                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:12                     ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-23 23:09                       ` Duncan [this message]
2012-06-21  9:27           ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2012-06-21 12:04             ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-23  8:19             ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 11:15           ` Patrick Lauer
2012-06-21 11:37             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23  8:01             ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 12:11         ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 12:30           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 13:13             ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 13:20               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 20:26                 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 22:46                   ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-29  5:27           ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-29  5:29         ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-21  6:41     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21  7:24       ` justin
2012-06-21 12:14         ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 12:38           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:39 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-06-20 20:41   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:51   ` Richard Yao
2012-06-29  5:20   ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-20 20:52 ` Luca Barbato
2012-06-20 21:33 ` Alec Warner
2012-06-21  9:42   ` Ben de Groot
2012-06-29  5:25 ` Mike Frysinger

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