From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ShwSm-0007nz-PR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:31:21 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C2C7E0CEF; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C832AE0CD8 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2901B403C for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:30:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.484 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.484 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.572, BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f2RMEHcVAryG for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:30:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 749331B4010 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ShwRt-0001d9-LU for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:30:25 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:30:25 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:30:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: My wishlist for EAPI 5 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4FE231BA.6020404@gentoo.org> <20120620213518.4baf8150@googlemail.com> <4FE23799.5080003@gentoo.org> <4FE3BE79.6020305@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.138 (Der Geraet; GIT f50ed2b /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 2d3134ad-a157-4c11-851b-b0748a840e41 X-Archives-Hash: ba8600d01faa19d4b42bf026d3b2bb1d Richard Yao posted on Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:38:17 -0400 as excerpted: > Would you (or someone else) elaborate on the specific features of bash > that people find attractive? For me (not a gentoo dev), in simplest terms it's just that I don't like=20 having to keep track of what's a bashism and what's POSIX. If individual= =20 devs prefer POSIX code, they can certainly write ebuilds (or a 4th gentoo= =20 package manager for that matter) in all POSIX, but there's enough devs=20 that for /whatever/ reason strongly prefer bash, where "strongly" is=20 ultimately defined as "if it's redefined to POSIX, there's a lot of other= =20 projects I can spend my time on instead, that won't force me into jumping= =20 thru those hoops", and that fact is widely enough known, that it's=20 unlikely in the extreme. But to give you a example I've seen on this list (one of the few bits I=20 know isn't POSIX)... Many people appreciate the advantages of [[ tests,=20 looser quoting, =3D=3D/=3D~ pattern matching tests, etc. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman