From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S1QTj-0005la-0Q for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:52:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0F27E0C58; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817D4E0C2D for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A82B1B4001 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:52:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.599, BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5QBm66MVFVw9 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C612D1B4003 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S1QSy-0001EG-Ls for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:51:48 +0100 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:51:48 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:51:48 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20120225060107.GA12218@linux1> <20120225200422.GA9246@waltdnes.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.136 (I'm far too busy being delicious; GIT 0efefbf /st/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: af754e29-796c-419b-94c1-62b49c37e5f5 X-Archives-Hash: c6a795584a6d659c2f1771003031ba86 Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:04:22 -0500 as excerpted: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 08:28:23AM +0000, Duncan wrote >=20 >> That leaves those using a dev-manager other than udev in a current >> installation who are depending on the current system set listing to >> bring in module-init-tools. I believe busybox has it's own modutils a= s >> well, doesn't it, so that eliminates them. >=20 > Would this require tweaking the virtual/dev-manager ebuild? Taking a > quick glance at http://busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html it does have > lsmod/modprobe/rmmod, but not modinfo. Are there any ebuilds or init > scripts that use modprobe or rmmod? If so, the ebuild should at least > have an ewarn message telling mdev users to create the necessary > symlinks to modprobe/rmmod. Maybe even attempt to create the symlinks > if they don't already exist. FWIW I don't have busybox installed either (negating @system entry in=20 /etc/portage/profiles/packages, I use either init=3D/bin/bash on the kern= el=20 command line, or a second copy of the rootfs taken when the system was=20 generally stable, as my emergency boot solution, no busybox necessary),=20 so I'm not familiar with it at all. But as I stated I've had module-init-tools in package.provided for quite=20 some time, no noticed ill effects. The only deps I see on it presently=20 are sys-apps/rescan-scsi-bus (itself a dep of k3b, cd/dvd-burning app,=20 this will obviously be replaced with a virtual/modutils dep) and virtual/modutils itself. I don't see any deps on virtual/modutils=20 presently. But of course I don't have all apps installed, either. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman