From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RifQe-00087p-PJ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 04:59:53 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2ADA21C068; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 04:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E79721C02B for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 04:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EC01B414C for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 04:59:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.561 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.561 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=1.576, BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.935, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wv45gdvlmLhS for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 04:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926731B4145 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 04:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RifPi-00018o-KS for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:58:54 +0100 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:58:54 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:58:54 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 04:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20120101015947.GA9914@linux1> <20120101085326.GA1928@gentoo.org> <20120102194341.3766edeb@pomiocik.lan> <20120104165112.5c24ed12@pomiocik.lan> <20120104155407.7c946dbc@googlemail.com> <1325698810.22213.16.camel@TesterBox.tester.ca> <20120104183007.GG30764@lisa.schiffbauer.lan> <1325703182.11298.5.camel@TesterTop4> <20120104204535.GI30764@lisa.schiffbauer.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 4a1371d /st/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 4e72fb7d-95cf-4062-9fe4-45d5659d14a2 X-Archives-Hash: 1ac0dab01c19726731cff8e64df0f6a6 Marc Schiffbauer posted on Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:45:35 +0100 as excerpted: > Please remember that there are *way* more server systems running linux > without any graphical desktop at all than desktop systems. So with Google activating ~800k android Linux systems a day last I heard,= =20 how do the number of (android) Linux systems (which we've already=20 established as having dbus) compare to the number of server Linux systems= ? If traditional gnu-linux isn't a minority in its own community already,=20 it soon will be. I sympathize with the sentiment behind the argument, but the numbers game= =20 really doesn't cut it, or we'd all be running some binary distribution or= =20 other instead of from-source Gentoo and we'd not be having this=20 discussion as it would have already been had for us. (Yeah, there IS=20 rather a lot to be read between THOSE lines!) --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman