From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RVeqv-0002WD-8v for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:45:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9430321C081; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F7E21C021 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E161D1B40A2 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:43:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.15 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.15 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=1.253, BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.201, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MkkQGBBczRKp for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890D21B409B for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVepG-00035Q-1i for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:43:30 +0100 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:43:30 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:43:30 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: sys-libs/zlib: punt from system in profiles Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <201111291509.35502.vapier@gentoo.org> <4ED59500.6020608@gentoo.org> <4ED5CBFF.9070603@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 51ee292 /st/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: fa797576-3860-4581-8530-9f8c07839817 X-Archives-Hash: 6526929e90911ff239b39f524bee8f40 Zac Medico posted on Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:23:59 -0800 as excerpted: > On 11/29/2011 08:51 PM, Duncan wrote: >> Zac Medico posted on Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:29:20 -0800 as excerpted: >>=20 >>> One nice thing about removing them from the system profile is that it >>> allows for greater parallelization with emerge --jobs[.] >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D256616 >> Except, don't dependencies of system profile packages get the same >> safety precaution applied [and such is zlib]? > Well, maybe there's not much parallelization benefit for sys-libs/zlib. > If it wasn't for implicit system dependencies, the system set and its > dependencies wouldn't need this kind of special treatment. Hmm... very good point, from a man that "oughta" know. =3D:^) So while this one removal from @system isn't much, reducing @system over=20 time both reduces the effective footprint of the problem, and encourages=20 explicit dependencies in a way that both cuts down on the need for=20 special @system treatment in the first place, and encourages further=20 reductions to the system set. The end result of that process sounds like something I can live with. =3D= :^) Thanks. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman