From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RVcAZ-0003fG-Tv for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 04:53:20 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CFFD21C07B; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 04:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13553E0517 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 04:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666261B4094 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 04:52:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=1.254, BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.201, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RDaO3GIGyFcb for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 04:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D591B408B for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 04:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVc9L-0001vW-6I for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 05:52:03 +0100 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 05:52:03 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 05:52:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: sys-libs/zlib: punt from system in profiles Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 04:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <201111291509.35502.vapier@gentoo.org> <4ED59500.6020608@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 51ee292 /st/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 6374d6e0-a479-44e8-b9f7-7512d67ec56c X-Archives-Hash: b0e39461dd8a76ea4134708e92645419 Zac Medico posted on Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:29:20 -0800 as excerpted: > One nice thing about removing them from the system profile is that it > allows for greater parallelization with emerge --jobs, since packages > that's aren't in the system set don't trigger the code for bug 256616 > [1] which limits parallelization as a safety precaution. >=20 > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D256616 And a VERY nice benefit that is, too. =3D:^) Except, don't dependencies of system profile packages get the same safety= =20 precaution applied, and at the level we're talking here, zlib, etc,=20 aren't such packages going to almost certainly be dependencies of @system= =20 on a normal system, even if they're not in @system itself? If so, that's a relatively limited benefit in most cases. Meanwhile, the better flexibility in terms of embedded is the benefit=20 that immediately comes to mind here. From what I've read, gentoo is=20 quite popular with embedded, and a lot of embedded folks go to a lot of=20 work to remove "unnecessary" packages from the system set. If it's=20 possible to do that at the general gentoo level without too much trouble=20 and without affecting general system target functionality, it's surely=20 going to save a lot of embedded folks a lot of duplicated effort, over=20 time. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman