From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QUGmk-000703-93 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:18:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 971DCE049A; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:18:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9995EE0462 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293321B4021 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:17:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -4.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.54 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=2.059, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iR6HWnZWc7vg for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC671B401F for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QUGlT-0001O5-4K for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2011 13:17:35 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2011 13:17:35 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2011 13:17:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20110516033002.207452004F@flycatcher.gentoo.org> <201106071824.52253.vapier@gentoo.org> <4DEEB720.3030806@gmail.com> <201106072308.19376.vapier@gentoo.org> <4DEEF05E.9010306@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.134 (Wait for Me; GIT 717b0ac branch-testing) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: eea6bf3dd1e03c0c005823cc946791ad Dale posted on Tue, 07 Jun 2011 22:45:34 -0500 as excerpted: > Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 19:41:20 Dale wrote: >> =20 >>> I have a question or two. I don't care if you, or others, reply to >>> this with a answer, just think on it. A policy, rule if you will, ha= s >>> been decided on by the council. This after MUCH discussion on this >>> list and the council hearing both sides of the argument. You, >>> apparently on your own or with a few others, have decided to ignore >>> the policy or rule. >>> =20 >> umm, no, ive done no such thing. try again. -mike >> =20 >> =20 > Let me see if I understand this correctly. Most devs and some users > wants things put in the changelog. I don't know if it was you before > but in the past someone didn't want to put when versions are removed. > That person, whoever it was, said they were not going to do it because > it was silly or whatever. This was taken to the council and it was > decided that all changes had to be put in the changelog. Now in this > thread, about the same thing from my understanding. You said "waste of > time" and the policy is not "sane". >=20 > So, council says it has to be done. You say you won't. Tell me where = I > missed the point here. Mike's actually correct. He didn't say he was going to defy council, rather, that he simply=20 wouldn't be removing ebuilds /at/ /all/ until either the changelog is aut= o- generated (making the case moot) or the council changes policy. That means they'll either fall to someone else to do, or will simply=20 remain there, but either way, it's quite different from directly defying=20 the council decision. Gentoo devs are volunteers in any case, and as such, the system, to the=20 degree that it works at all, does so because volunteers are (within=20 reason) allowed to have their foibles and the system ultimately works=20 around them. Because everyone has their foibles and if "the system"=20 couldn't work around them, "the system" would quickly cease to be! --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman