From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QKAIK-0002yZ-Fu for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 May 2011 14:21:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 359E11C063; Wed, 11 May 2011 14:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986EB1C01B for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 14:21:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354E71B4097 for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 14:21:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.527 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.527 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e0InSwa--FCi for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 14:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78751B404B for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 14:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QKAHU-0002mH-MK for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 11 May 2011 16:20:52 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 16:20:52 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 16:20:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: About the Qt 4.7.3 bump Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 14:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4DCA81E5.9010502@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.134 (Wait for Me; GIT 94e23f5 branch-testing) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: a19dbbd94b21e8e019d374fc6b4333a7 Nikos Chantziaras posted on Wed, 11 May 2011 15:44:35 +0300 as excerpted: > On 05/11/2011 03:32 PM, Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Chv=C3=A1tal wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Dne 11.5.2011 13:05, Nikos Chantziaras napsal(a): >>> Why did the bump to Qt 4.7.3 happen? AFAIK, it only contains Symbian >>> changes, and Gentoo does not run on the Symbian platform. >>> >>> >> With this approach you could ask why we bump each kde release. >> >> As most of the apps does not change at all. >=20 > I don't know :-P Avoiding needless bumps was, IIRC, one of the reasons > Gentoo uses split ebuilds. Anyway, I mentioned this because in the > past, at least one time, a version bump for Qt was omitted exactly > because there were no changes. I have in fact wondered about just that. Back when the kde split ebuilds= =20 were being created, one of the big advantages was said to be that most kd= e=20 bumps didn't actually change anything for most apps, and we could keep th= e=20 same versions. But recently I've seen comments from the kde folks saying= =20 most don't, but we bump anyway, and I know everything does seem to be=20 bumped. Is that simply because it's simpler to track everything at the same=20 version, instead of having kdelibs at 4.6.3 and kmail, for instance, stil= l=20 at 4.6.0? (That was in fact one of my worries with the initial thinking,= =20 that it'd be difficult to know whether upstream had updated and gentoo/kd= e=20 had problems with it for gentoo and hadn't updated, or whether upstream=20 simply hadn't updated that package. When the versions are all synced wit= h=20 upstream regardless of changes, that's not an issue, even if it does mean= =20 much more "useless" building.) --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman