From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QAoHu-0005dW-3Z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:02:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6D0FE0527; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:02:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E5CE0517 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41D21B4002 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:01:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ttu5Uaot6a7F for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509801B4010 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:01:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QAoGu-0003Se-4T for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:01:36 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:01:36 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:01:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: openrc portage news item Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20110413181538.GA2894@linux1> <4DA5EE4C.20808@gentoo.org> <20110413195851.GB3116@linux1> <1302876249.5535.4.camel@lillen> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.134 (Wait for Me; GIT 9383aac branch-testing) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: d60ef8ae4ee4ddd04d78ee19a2432ea0 Peter Hjalmarsson posted on Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:04:09 +0200 as excerpted: > [parallel boot] feature is still not really perfect, at least not > perfect enought. Use squid on a system where it takes longer for its > daemon to exist (like my router, where the media is a intel SSD, > 4GB memory and a AMD Athlon 2x on the AM3 socket) and you will see > lots of outputs from openrc about all those scripts waiting for it > to end... If you're talking about the 50...40... etc wait if something takes longer= =20 than 10 seconds (I get it here on startup with ntp-client), I'd argue=20 that's demonstration of the feature's maturity. What can start/stop does. Other things wait, with a (configurable)=20 timeout until their dependency comes up (or goes down, at shutdown). If=20 the wait is more than 10 seconds, the system tells you what is going on. That's as designed and IMO a good thing. What's broken about it? > So maybe when that feature is ready to be enabled by default? I believe it's ready for everyone to give a try. If it doesn't work or=20 they prefer the more ordered output of a serial boot, despite the longer=20 wait time, fine, but it'll work for most, with possible tweaking of the =20 the timeout, the services that don't timeout at all (fscks, by default),=20 or fine dependency ordering, if necessary. To have the system take far longer to POST than from end of POST to=20 waiting for me to login (despite the idle-wait for ntp-client), is very=20 nice indeed. =3D:^) --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman