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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: openrc portage news item
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:01:25 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan.2011.04.15.19.01.24@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1302876249.5535.4.camel@lillen

Peter Hjalmarsson posted on Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:04:09 +0200 as excerpted:

> [parallel boot] feature is still not really perfect, at least not
> perfect enought. Use squid on a system where it takes longer for its
> daemon to exist (like my router, where the media is a intel SSD,
> 4GB memory and a AMD Athlon 2x on the AM3 socket) and you will see
> lots of outputs from openrc about all those scripts waiting for it
> to end...

If you're talking about the 50...40... etc wait if something takes longer 
than 10 seconds (I get it here on startup with ntp-client), I'd argue 
that's demonstration of the feature's maturity.

What can start/stop does.  Other things wait, with a (configurable) 
timeout until their dependency comes up (or goes down, at shutdown).  If 
the wait is more than 10 seconds, the system tells you what is going on.

That's as designed and IMO a good thing.  What's broken about it?

> So maybe when that feature is ready to be enabled by default?

I believe it's ready for everyone to give a try.  If it doesn't work or 
they prefer the more ordered output of a serial boot, despite the longer 
wait time, fine, but it'll work for most, with possible tweaking of the  
the timeout, the services that don't timeout at all (fscks, by default), 
or fine dependency ordering, if necessary.

To have the system take far longer to POST than from end of POST to 
waiting for me to login (despite the idle-wait for ntp-client), is very 
nice indeed. =:^)

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman




  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-15 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-13 18:15 [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item William Hubbs
2011-04-13 18:27 ` Thomas Beierlein
2011-04-13 18:32 ` justin
2011-04-13 18:41 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2011-04-13 19:58   ` William Hubbs
2011-04-14  8:09     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-04-14 11:44       ` Rich Freeman
2011-04-15 14:04       ` Peter Hjalmarsson
2011-04-15 19:01         ` Duncan [this message]
2011-04-13 19:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2011-04-14  5:30   ` justin
2011-04-14  7:21     ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2011-04-14  8:19       ` justin
2011-04-14  8:40       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-04-14 14:44         ` Dale
2011-04-14 15:41           ` Matthew Summers
2011-04-14 16:12             ` Dale
2011-04-14 18:48             ` William Hubbs
2011-04-14 10:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Kfir Lavi
2011-04-14 10:32   ` Kfir Lavi
2011-04-14 10:51   ` Tomá? Chvátal
2011-04-14 11:03     ` Pacho Ramos
2011-04-14 11:21     ` Thomas Beierlein
2011-04-14 11:27       ` Sylvain Alain
2011-04-21  1:12   ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-04-21  2:23     ` Jeroen Roovers
2011-04-21  2:34       ` Jeroen Roovers
2011-04-22 10:39     ` Lars Wendler
2011-04-29 18:41       ` Brian Harring
2011-04-30  2:19         ` William Hubbs
2011-04-30  4:59           ` Brian Harring
2011-04-30  7:13             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-04-30 11:46               ` Brian Harring
2011-04-30 12:03                 ` Rich Freeman
2011-04-30 12:58                   ` Brian Harring
2011-04-30 13:06                     ` Jeremy Olexa
2011-04-30 13:40                       ` Brian Harring
2011-04-29  7:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2011-04-29 11:21   ` Rich Freeman
2011-04-29 11:28     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2011-04-29 17:18       ` Alex Alexander
2011-04-29 17:25         ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-04-29 17:32           ` Alex Alexander
2011-04-29 17:52           ` Rich Freeman
2011-04-29 17:58             ` Alex Alexander
2011-04-30  0:34               ` William Hubbs
2011-04-30  9:04                 ` Sergei Trofimovich
2011-04-30 12:41                 ` Roy Bamford
2011-04-29 14:27   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-05-01 19:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs

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