From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OPtvP-0005dj-1j for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:01:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77BCDE0779; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213FAE083D for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C821B403A for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:00:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -1.328 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.328 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.143, BAYES_40=-0.185] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8X62DBQZBl4m for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2481B4035 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OPtun-0006s5-AF for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:00:37 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:00:37 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:00:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org connect(): No such file or directory From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tone in Gentoo Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4C184607.5080907@gentoo.org> <4C1C2A90.1020603@gentoo.org> <4C1C3768.1070008@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies; GIT a971f44 branch-testing) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 6291787f-8d8b-42b3-88ca-60f805b1e992 X-Archives-Hash: 8055892a618b4417eb441aa21fddb1f9 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto posted on Sat, 19 Jun 2010 03:20:08 +0000 as excerpted: > you're confusing talk and jokes between developers on a particular > private room with tone between members of the global community in publi= c > mediums. It's possible that's the case. However, it's also the case that with suc= h=20 content, whatever consent there may have been between present parties=20 previously, as soon as one person present asks that it stop and it does=20 not, it's sexual harassment. Evidently, one person present, regular or=20 not, asked that it stop, and it didn't, ergo... Regardless of whether it was acceptable before that, it certainly was not= ,=20 after that. That's not the sort of situation, private or not, that I'd be proud to sa= y=20 I was a part of, or would like to try to explain to my kid, my parent, or= =20 my girlfriend/wife, particularly after one party present evidently asked=20 that it stop, and it didn't. It does not make me proud to say I run=20 Gentoo. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman