From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O1wh8-0004Cx-0Y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:07:30 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6ED8E091B; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47335E08CA for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DE01B400E for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:07:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.549 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.549 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4q6Sm0BQcst7 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF38646CC for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1wgh-0005AK-Qc for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:07:03 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:07:03 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:07:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] RESTRICT=parallel for builds that can't be executed in parallel Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4BC52478.3020303@gentoo.org> <20100414074520.339dd0ed@pomiot.lan> <20100414061016.GA30025@hrair> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 62abcc73-c089-443e-a43b-12260324f21b X-Archives-Hash: 6ba3cabca1251e14430f88baf854dc19 Brian Harring posted on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:10:16 -0700 as excerpted: > RESTRICT=3Dparallel is basically a big lock that forces building to go > down to one specific build/merge job- it's not at all fine grained. Tha= t > said, I'm not convinced it's worth actually *trying* to be fine grained= . >=20 > Stuff that needs this 'lock', if you look at it from the purely academi= c > angle is broken. The pkgs in question should be buildable without > modifying the livefs. >=20 > From the pragmatic angle, fixing some of those packages is a pretty hug= e > endeavour hence this lock existing. I see no reason to encourage the > usage of this lock by making it more fine grained, either. What examples of the problem do we have, other than xorg-server due to=20 eselect opengl? For just xorg-server, killing parallel seems like a rather frustrating an= d=20 indeed broken solution (especially for folks who prefer to run freedomwar= e=20 and thus have only the X11/mesa opengl version on their system anyway, so= =20 forcing non-parallel is an exercise in uselessness). If it's the only=20 one, at /least/ only forcing non-parallel if the eselect opengl actually=20 changes the selected opengl would seem reasonable. But if there's other non-contrived examples around, getting a couple of=20 them on the table should I think clarify our potential usage constraints=20 somewhat. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman