From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NvtTe-0003NK-T4 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:28:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55FA3E08CD; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CBBE08C6 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7546D1B403F for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:28:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.556 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.556 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xWoHMvrxn0zW for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF0D1B405E for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvtT2-0005Vy-T2 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:27:56 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:27:56 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:27:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: List of User projects Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:27:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <201003281713.14945.ali_bush@gentoo.org> <201003282321.23903.ali_bush@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 185da706-f8bb-400f-ab70-65a0808308b6 X-Archives-Hash: 6f059e1a2bc398c90fb2244d1c7e8329 Alistair Bush posted on Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:21:23 +1300 as excerpted: >> So you mention openrc, but don't have it on the list? >>=20 >>=20 > Yes because openrc isn't really gentoo-specific. I don't want the lis= t > blowing out to include ever package in the entire tree. ie. Thanking > gcc for contributing to gentoo. >=20 > Note this doesn't mean that openrc won't be on the list. I think that > in this case the dev has worked closely enough with gentoo to deserve > acknowledgment. (being a former dev might have helped that :) ) >=20 > Maybe it will be in a "Non-Gentoo specific" section of the list, or > something. My point at the moment is to distinguish it from something > like pkgcore/paludis which were developed with gentoo firmly as the > target platform. I don't disagree with your idea, and I'm not /really/ the partisan openrc= =20 booster this might cause me to appear to be, it's just that it and the=20 portage helpers are more than likely pretty much it, and I /am/ trying to= =20 understand the distinction being made: What other distributions (*BSD, Linux, or...) do you know that use=20 openrc? IOW, I know it was designed to be distribution independent, but = I=20 don't know of anyone else using it (well, other than Gentoo derivatives),= =20 and Gentoo certainly influenced it. Meanwhile, portage, and thus the various app-portage/* tools, as=20 mentioned, should be usable on many of those same Gentoo derivatives. And paludis and friends, while being designed for more independent use=20 (much like openrc), again, is it (are they) actually part of any non- Gentoo-based distribution? The point being, perhaps I'm wrong and openrc does have a broader=20 distribution basis than I'm aware of, but in practice, it seems all of=20 these tend to be used /almost/ exclusively with Gentoo and Gentoo based=20 distributions. If openrc's usage is rather wider than I'm aware of, well= =20 then, I'm about to learn that. =3D:^) --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman