From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NvpZa-0008Rq-Ky for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:18:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 680FFE07AF; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20D3E0678 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525261B4037 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:17:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.556 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.556 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rT4+kySFMQ8w for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A871B4046 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nvp27-000153-P4 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:43:51 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:43:51 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:43:51 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Reworking package stabilization policies Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20100327205841.GA12996@linux1> <201003280747.28790.reavertm@gmail.com> <201003281931.10274.ali_bush@gentoo.org> <20100328063443.GA25918@hrair.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 2c22d255-d3d0-4d1b-b6c4-8a71402a05ec X-Archives-Hash: c83305fa3cb1837f3ba8b7dd5097e646 Brian Harring posted on Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:34:43 -0700 as excerpted: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 07:31:10PM +1300, Alistair Bush wrote: >> > On Saturday 27 of March 2010 21:58:41 William Hubbs wrote: >> >=20 >> > It's really freaking silly to wait months for stabilization of some >> > random php/perl library that's known to work. >>=20 >> Have you ever just considered closing the stabilization bug and >> ignoring the arch. If they take so long to mark your packages as >> stable why do you care about them enough to even attempt to stabilize >> anything on their arch. >=20 > If the pkg isn't a leaf node, you wind up keeping older and older > versions lingering across multiple pkgs to keep it from breaking stable= . >=20 > This is assuming that it's still heavily frowned upon to remove the onl= y > stable version available for a non-dead arch... ~harring What I've seen maintainers (report) doing before, when they give up on a(= n=20 non-experimental) arch, is keep the last stable version for that arch=20 around, but remove all other keywords, and reassign all bugs for that=20 version to the arch in question, with a (perhaps boilerplate) comment on=20 the bug to the effect that said arch refuses to stabilize any further,=20 thus the only reason said version remains in the tree, so the bug is=20 theirs to deal with or not deal with as they choose. I've always wondered what happened to such bugs after that, but never=20 enough to actually go find some to see... --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman