From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nu6mJ-0006p9-2z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:16:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D2D1E09D4; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773F5E09BC for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184011B4006 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:16:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -1.812 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.812 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.702, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mOo7btvSddyD for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597751B4018 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nu6lx-0002lv-7c for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:16:05 +0100 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:16:05 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:16:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4BA27CE2.7080005@gentoo.org> <201003201511.49740.Arfrever@gentoo.org> <2e0007041003221412i7a3f283an264d750a4e343fde@mail.gmail.com> <201003231638.03532.Arfrever@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: d98a3671-078b-492e-ba07-6522750f3ce2 X-Archives-Hash: 8104e74ddd65f9f28e7174f1ce117408 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis posted on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:37:34 +0100 as excerpted: > 2010-03-22 22:12:54 Jacob Godserv napisa=C5=82(a): >> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:11, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis >> wrote: >> > 2010-03-20 01:51:44 Duncan napisa=C5=82(a): >> >> So let's just recognize that it's not a perfect situation, create a >> >> news item saying that python-3 will soon (give a date) be unmasked, >> >> and suggest that users not needing it may wish to package.mask it >> >> themselves, with a link to documentation with specific instructions >> >> and a bit more detail on why they might wish to mask it and under >> >> what circumstances they might not. >> >> >> >> I'd suggest an unmasking date 30 days after the release of the news >> >> item. >> > >> > Python 3 is not masked. The discussion is about stabilization. >>=20 >> Duncan's comments still apply, though, right? What's against writing a >> news item about stabilizing Python? >=20 > There is already a thread about news item: > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/ msg_814e67764c17f88bde94f22e9a392e4f.xml (link wrapped) But that doesn't mention that users may wish to package.mask it, to avoid= =20 having it on their systems at all. That's what /I/ was suggesting in=20 /this/ thread, that a news item (presumably that one) should mention the=20 package.mask option. That really does seem to be about the best compromise, given the situatio= n=20 as described so well in this thread. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman