From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NnETl-0006hF-TN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:04:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9E0CE1012; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:04:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7007FE0F5A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2143B1B40F7 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:04:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.556 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.556 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2X8Z2E0Ia9wl for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD281B4078 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NnETS-0004Bo-NG for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:04:35 +0100 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:04:34 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:04:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1267641936.26170.5.camel@localhost> <201003040756.48943.cla@gentoo.org> <20100303230807.2a1ac862@angelstorm> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: fd78ce86-2b5a-48b7-9d38-75d986710ff8 X-Archives-Hash: a34209ab60d0188c912bd28ca1f9b19a Ben de Groot posted on Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:28:24 +0100 as excerpted: > On 4 March 2010 08:08, Joshua Saddler wrote: >> Your logic is very thin here. By that same line of reasoning, neither >> are the gtk or qt flags, since you don't need 'em if you're building, >> say, a *box desktop. >=20 > Toolkits are more directly useful to a desktop than printing. >=20 >> Printing is something I'd argue is part of a desktop environment. >=20 > And I'd argue it isn't necessarily so. Indeed. Some (many?) of us use printing uncommonly enough that it's=20 cheaper to put it on a thumb drive and take it to a printer than buy a=20 printer -- and pay for another $10-30 ink cartridge every time we want to= =20 print something, because the last one dried up between uses. (I keep=20 thinking I'll buy a laser printer, but never seem to get around to doing=20 the research on best supported, etc, and always seem to have other things= =20 to spend the money on. Besides, the tech keeps getting better, so a bit=20 of delay isn't hurting... which I've been saying for years now. How many= =20 are in a similar position?) --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman