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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev]  Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:05:13 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan.2010.01.13.08.05.14@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20100113064818.0988dc9c@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net

Jeroen Roovers posted on Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:48:18 +0100 as excerpted:

> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> So going with this idea...  Isn't the treecleaner masking 30-day at
>> present?  What about extending that just a bit, to 5 weeks total, while
>> reducing the actual masking to 4 weeks, with the extra week a wait time
>> between the traditional last-rites mail and the masking?
> 
> No, masking for removal should take 30 days. I strongly feel that before
> treecleaner@ does any masking, an announcement should go to -dev@ and
> -announce@ a pretty long time in advance, maybe two months, especially
> with the two cockups a month that I am counting now.

30-day masking /does/ give the folks updating once a month at least one 
warning, so I can see the case for that.

But... IMO extending the pre-mask warning another full 30 days... is 
asking for trouble going the /other/ way.  It's not urgent enough to 
require immediate action... which can unfortunately cause people to put 
it off and forget about it.  Then it's masked 30 days later... and we're 
back where we were!

So I'd say a week to 15 days pre-mask warning... and 14-15 days is 
stretching it.  A week is just about right, short enough to require 
urgent action and thus front-burnering, long enough that if there's a 
clear objection to be made, it should be very clear within 2-3 days, and 
there's another 4 days to actually do something about it before the 
masking.

Just my (non-gentoo-dev) opinion, however.  I'm acutely aware I'm not the 
one doing the work, so if that opinion doesn't match dev-reality, feel 
free to ignore it.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman




  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-13  8:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-11 21:05 [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-nntp/inn Markos Chandras
2010-01-11 22:31 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-12  1:00   ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-12 20:31     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-11 23:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Arnaud Launay
2010-01-12  1:02   ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-12  2:22     ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-12  5:03       ` [gentoo-dev] Thanks for the rescue! Was: " Duncan
2010-01-12 16:32       ` [gentoo-dev] " Markos Chandras
2010-01-12 18:21         ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-12 18:30           ` Markos Chandras
2010-01-12 19:07             ` Richard Freeman
2010-01-12 22:37               ` Duncan
2010-01-13  1:18                 ` Arnaud Launay
2010-01-13  5:52                   ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-13 15:06                     ` Arnaud Launay
2010-01-13 16:31                       ` Richard Freeman
2010-01-13  5:48                 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-13  8:05                   ` Duncan [this message]
2010-01-12 19:40             ` Arnaud Launay
2010-01-12 19:49               ` Markos Chandras
2010-01-12 20:35                 ` Ben de Groot
2010-01-12 22:24                   ` Duncan
2010-01-13 15:54                   ` [gentoo-dev] proxy maintainership and gentoo-x86 scm Mike Frysinger
2010-01-13 21:02                     ` Ben de Groot
2010-01-13 21:18                       ` justin
2010-01-13 22:03                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2010-01-14 13:30                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Markos Chandras
2010-01-14 16:35                         ` Ben de Groot
2010-01-14 12:49                     ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-01-14 13:47                       ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-01-14 22:10                         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-01-15 13:17                           ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-01-14 16:24                       ` Ben de Groot
2010-01-14 17:04                       ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-01-14 19:46                         ` Pacho Ramos
2010-01-14 22:53                         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-01-14 20:31                       ` Daniel Bradshaw
2010-01-14 22:21                         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-01-14 22:29                           ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-01-14 22:54                             ` Robin H. Johnson
2010-01-14 23:25                               ` Petteri Räty
2010-01-15  8:32                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-14 23:28                               ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-01-19 22:29                               ` Arun Raghavan
2010-01-14 22:32                           ` Daniel Bradshaw
2010-01-15  0:07                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul Arthur
2010-01-15  0:47                         ` Robin H. Johnson
2010-01-15  7:53                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Max Arnold
2010-01-15 15:50                   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn Victor Ostorga
2010-01-15 16:09                     ` Ben de Groot
2010-01-17 20:20                       ` Thilo Bangert
2010-01-17 20:44                         ` Richard Freeman
2010-01-17 21:12                         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-17 22:25                           ` Thilo Bangert
2010-01-18  1:23                             ` Ben de Groot
2010-01-18  2:17                               ` Richard Freeman
2010-01-20 13:49                                 ` Petteri Räty
2010-01-12  1:10   ` Duncan
2010-01-12  1:36   ` Richard Freeman
2010-01-12  3:43     ` Jeremy Olexa
2010-01-12 18:01       ` Richard Freeman
2010-01-12 20:33       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-12 20:51         ` Tomáš Chvátal
2010-01-12 21:39           ` Denis Dupeyron
2010-01-13  5:45           ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-13 14:24           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-13 16:27             ` Richard Freeman

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