From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NUpCp-0008L9-0O for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:27:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E29D6E05B4; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27B6E05B4 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512341B4102 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:26:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.554 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.045, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7xmgqzLwy2tr for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4831B40D8 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NUpAx-0000X8-Hd for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:25:23 +0100 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:25:23 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:25:23 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <201001112305.16532.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <201001122030.27164.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <20100112194037.GA917@launay.org> <201001122149.11091.hwoarang@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: aeedd4f0-f86c-46f3-a278-4acc8be24a45 X-Archives-Hash: 023462ea813df59d6888464ca32d2873 Ben de Groot posted on Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:35:45 +0100 as excerpted: > 2010/1/12 Markos Chandras : >> If you feel like it, become a proxy-maintainer and poke a developer to >> put your ebuilds on tree. Have you ever heard of that ? :) >=20 > Proxy-maintainership should be given a MUCH higher profile in Gentoo, i= n > my opinion. It is a virtually unknown option. Yay! =3D:^) > Another thing that works in my experience, but this is up to the > herds/projects, is having an official overlay where devs and users can > work closely together. Again! =3D:^) > But I also believe we need a better structure to handle > maintainer-needed, maintainer-wanted and nominally maintained but > ignored packages. Maybe we should form a team, which would be dedicated > to take care of such things, and which would have a review policy for > user submitted ebuilds and patches in bugzilla. A bit like treecleaners= , > but bringing life instead of death. What do you think? Well, sunrise was supposed to be that for packages not yet in the tree. =20 The devs shepherding that work hard with the users doing the ebuilds to=20 get them up to tree quality, so they're ready for devs to take on with=20 little work (or to go into proxy maintainership), when it's that=20 package's time. I know I've used a handful of sunrise packages that=20 ultimately ended up in the tree, which is pretty good, considering I=20 don't even have the sunrise overlay enabled unless there's something I=20 specifically want from it. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman