From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:10:27 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan.2010.01.12.01.10.27@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20100111233024.GF8358@launay.org
Arnaud Launay posted on Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:30:24 +0100 as excerpted:
> Hello,
>
> Le Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:05:16PM +0200, Markos Chandras a écrit:
>> # Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> (11 Jan 2010) # Fails with
>> -Wl,--as-needed
>> # bug #182782. Removal in 30 days
>> net-nntp/inn
>
> As a newsmaster, I'm a bit concerned by this. By viewing bug #182782 ,
> it seems to me that only inn <=2.4.* is concerned by this bug, and that
> >=2.5 does not have it.
>
> But, if I understand this announce correctly, the complete inn port will
> be dropped to oblivion.
>
> Wouldn't it be better to stabilize inn 2.5 (there's even a 2.5.1 release
> out there, with a quite reactive support/dev team, to which this "bug"
> could be pushed and corrected), than to just drop inn entirely ?
>
> Or maybe I'm just plain wrong, in which case I will happily stand
> corrected.
While I'm an --as-needed user myself, add my post here too.
A work-around is a work-around and shouldn't close the bug, agree with
flame-eyes there, but it seems a bit much to yank something as standard
as INN from the tree over this, especially when there's no indication it
applies to the ~arch version 2.5, only 2.4.x, in either bug (182782,
248145, refer to the log for the latter).
Not only is there no indication that 2.5 is affected, but if it is,
where's the mention of the upstream bug number?
Replacements? There's leafnode, and checking, I see openntpd4 and
twisted news. Still, inn is rather like sendmail for news. Do we
/really/ want to kill it?
IMO, the backing on this one seems thin and the timing premature.
Perhaps it does need to go, but if so, there's certainly a stronger case
to be made for it than those couple bugs and the last-rites masking
comment.
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-11 21:05 [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-nntp/inn Markos Chandras
2010-01-11 22:31 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-12 1:00 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-12 20:31 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-11 23:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Arnaud Launay
2010-01-12 1:02 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-12 2:22 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-12 5:03 ` [gentoo-dev] Thanks for the rescue! Was: " Duncan
2010-01-12 16:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Markos Chandras
2010-01-12 18:21 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-12 18:30 ` Markos Chandras
2010-01-12 19:07 ` Richard Freeman
2010-01-12 22:37 ` Duncan
2010-01-13 1:18 ` Arnaud Launay
2010-01-13 5:52 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-13 15:06 ` Arnaud Launay
2010-01-13 16:31 ` Richard Freeman
2010-01-13 5:48 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-13 8:05 ` Duncan
2010-01-12 19:40 ` Arnaud Launay
2010-01-12 19:49 ` Markos Chandras
2010-01-12 20:35 ` Ben de Groot
2010-01-12 22:24 ` Duncan
2010-01-13 15:54 ` [gentoo-dev] proxy maintainership and gentoo-x86 scm Mike Frysinger
2010-01-13 21:02 ` Ben de Groot
2010-01-13 21:18 ` justin
2010-01-13 22:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2010-01-14 13:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Markos Chandras
2010-01-14 16:35 ` Ben de Groot
2010-01-14 12:49 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-01-14 13:47 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-01-14 22:10 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-01-15 13:17 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-01-14 16:24 ` Ben de Groot
2010-01-14 17:04 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-01-14 19:46 ` Pacho Ramos
2010-01-14 22:53 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-01-14 20:31 ` Daniel Bradshaw
2010-01-14 22:21 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-01-14 22:29 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-01-14 22:54 ` Robin H. Johnson
2010-01-14 23:25 ` Petteri Räty
2010-01-15 8:32 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-14 23:28 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-01-19 22:29 ` Arun Raghavan
2010-01-14 22:32 ` Daniel Bradshaw
2010-01-15 0:07 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul Arthur
2010-01-15 0:47 ` Robin H. Johnson
2010-01-15 7:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Max Arnold
2010-01-15 15:50 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn Victor Ostorga
2010-01-15 16:09 ` Ben de Groot
2010-01-17 20:20 ` Thilo Bangert
2010-01-17 20:44 ` Richard Freeman
2010-01-17 21:12 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-17 22:25 ` Thilo Bangert
2010-01-18 1:23 ` Ben de Groot
2010-01-18 2:17 ` Richard Freeman
2010-01-20 13:49 ` Petteri Räty
2010-01-12 1:10 ` Duncan [this message]
2010-01-12 1:36 ` Richard Freeman
2010-01-12 3:43 ` Jeremy Olexa
2010-01-12 18:01 ` Richard Freeman
2010-01-12 20:33 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-12 20:51 ` Tomáš Chvátal
2010-01-12 21:39 ` Denis Dupeyron
2010-01-13 5:45 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-01-13 14:24 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-13 16:27 ` Richard Freeman
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