From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDWYd-0000YO-9v for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:06:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86CFEE0841; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEA5E0841 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04995679D5 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:05:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.552 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OGJK19qpf-bg for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4120267930 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NDWXM-0007CI-GW for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:05:00 +0100 Received: from ip68-231-21-207.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.21.207]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:05:00 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-21-207.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:05:00 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: mtime preservation Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <19184.25176.380022.392451@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20091108191439.3fcee79d@snowcone> <7c612fc60911090718y144319f5lc9827a5e2e153c2@mail.gmail.com> <20091109153429.502e272f@snowcone> <19193.4389.637969.727075@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20091119221248.539eedd9@snowmobile> <7c612fc60911191614h5e37c849y50ad217a828fa744@mail.gmail.com> <20091120001820.7274bdf7@snowmobile> <4B07362D.2010108@gentoo.org> <7c612fc60911231049n4a51ddb0u30ae72d8ed93cdec@mail.gmail.com> <7c612fc60911251313i705a182as6cf50402c7829beb@mail.gmail.com> <20091125212718.5deb42f8@snowcone> <20091125221327.324e11fb@snowcone> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-21-207.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: acf24e4a-cc07-411c-94bf-a36315882beb X-Archives-Hash: 671d1e1c252e4bc58502bc67c8829619 Ciaran McCreesh posted on Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:13:27 +0000 as excerpted: > Examples will merely be > dismissed as one-off cases that can be worked around, or as relying upo= n > a string of coincidences that will "obviously" never really happen, > right up until they do, at which point they'll be dismissed with a > WORKSFORME. What you have is a proof that it's broken, which is far > better than an example. Actually, that "dismissed with WORKSFORME" strikes a chord, here. There=20 was a very strange parallel make bug that I filed that was closed with=20 that. I'd have really liked to see someone with some skill tackle it, as= =20 that was the only one I've ever seen that had striped fail and working=20 zones, and I've have loved to see some logic as to why... (If -j10=20 failed, -j3 and -j15 might succeed, -l24 fail again, and -j33 succeed=20 again...) Unfortunately, flameeyes, the only one I know who really gets=20 into such things, was fresh out of the hospital at the time, and I think=20 it was beyond the maintainer's abilities, so WORKSFORME was about the=20 best that could be done. I've long since changed and changed again my=20 makeopts, and don't remember the pkg now, tho I could probably find it in= =20 my old bug mail if I needed to. So I gotta admit you have a point, with that one. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman