From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N6qaH-0001Fq-Pl for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:04:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AB72E0872; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F0AE0872 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4369867D95 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:04:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.551 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.048, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y7FiaoQci7x0 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB22067CE5 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1N6qa0-0005oQ-UE for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:04:08 +0100 Received: from ip68-231-21-207.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.21.207]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:04:08 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-21-207.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:04:08 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA: package.mask policies Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <200911071824.16651.scarabeus@gentoo.org> <20091107180322.GA23301@linux1> <20091107193312.5df04226@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-21-207.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: e14f7ce1-2ef7-44bd-a0bb-dc96c4950599 X-Archives-Hash: 483f7b74e297d3591e5deedd7e7989ec Christian Faulhammer posted on Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:33:12 +0100 as excerpted: > William Hubbs : >> > * Masking live... >> > Heck no. This is not proper usage. Just use keywords mask. >> > KEYWORDS=3D"". Problem solved and the package.mask is smaller. (Note= , >> > in overlays do what ever you want, since it does not polute the main >> > mask from g-x86). >> =20 >> True. If we mask live ebuilds with KEYWORDS=3D"", there isn't a reas= on >> to put them in p.mask that I can think of. >=20 > Many users use "**" in their p.keywords file and get a live ebuild > then. There's two different ways of seeing that. 1) Users using ** in their package.keywords file should know enough about= =20 what they're doing to use their own package.mask, as well. If they're=20 using ** in the keywords file, they're /saying/ they're reading to handle= =20 such things, after all, why shouldn't we let them? 2) That won't necessarily stop the bugs from rolling in. Some devs may=20 get tired of live pkg bugs and package.mask it, thus putting up a double- barrier to the live ebuild. If users jump BOTH barriers and fall over=20 the ledge, well... maybe they /need/ that Darwin Award! =3D:^] Thus I can see either way. If a dev's sick of dealing with live package=20 bugs, maybe a package.mask will keep a few more folks from jumping over=20 that ledge and filing them. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman