From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:18:28 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan.2009.03.10.06.18.28@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 49B57409.5050406@gentoo.org
Richard Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> posted 49B57409.5050406@gentoo.org,
excerpted below, on Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:54:49 -0400:
> If the developer of an ebuild prepares the manifest, then at least their
> package manager will know how to handle the ebuild and extract the EAPI.
Good point. The dev's PM will presumably be updated to whatever EAPI
he's committing, even if they user's isn't. That does help some.
> However, end-user package managers wouldn't need to source the ebuild
> to figure out the EAPI.
If I've been paying attention, that isn't necessarily the case. Ciaran
can better answer why than I can, however.
> Potentially the developer could just manually put the EAPI in the
> manifest (or use a tool to do this). Obviously this is an extra step
> when adding ebuilds to the tree, but that would completely address the
> issues with sourcing builds.
That's an interesting idea. A "manual" method for putting the EAPI in
the manifest, thus bypassing the chicken/egg issue of needing to need the
EAPI to source the ebuild... to get the EAPI.
> Changing the manifest format of course creates backwards compatibility
> issues.
That's likely the biggest issue, potentially making this a "wait a year"
solution. But if we got in the PMs and started the clock now...
> So, I wouldn't dismiss this idea out of hand - it isn't completely
> equivalent to the other options.
True. It may well be one component of a full solution, even if it
doesn't on its own provide a full solution.
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-24 22:21 [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives Petteri Räty
2009-02-24 22:49 ` Ferris McCormick
2009-02-24 23:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2009-02-25 0:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Richard Freeman
2009-02-25 2:40 ` Jeremy Olexa
2009-02-25 3:53 ` Dawid Węgliński
2009-02-25 4:32 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-25 6:46 ` Alec Warner
2009-02-25 6:49 ` Jeroen Roovers
2009-02-25 6:53 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-25 21:00 ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-25 8:16 ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-25 10:05 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-02-25 10:34 ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-02-25 10:59 ` Michael Haubenwallner
2009-02-25 11:18 ` Mike Auty
2009-02-25 11:57 ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-25 12:49 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-25 22:19 ` Andrew Gaffney
2009-02-25 23:03 ` [gentoo-dev] eapi function (Was: Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives) Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 0:02 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-26 0:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 0:24 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-26 0:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 0:43 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2009-02-26 0:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 11:07 ` Petteri Räty
2009-02-25 14:33 ` [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives Robert Buchholz
2009-02-25 19:03 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-25 21:09 ` Josh Saddler
2009-02-26 2:13 ` Ravi Pinjala
2009-02-26 3:13 ` Kumba
2009-02-28 20:52 ` Kumba
2009-02-26 5:36 ` Zac Medico
2009-02-26 18:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 18:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 18:47 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-26 18:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 19:16 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-26 19:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-27 9:27 ` Caleb Cushing
2009-02-27 10:52 ` Rémi Cardona
2009-02-28 10:56 ` Peter Volkov
2009-02-28 12:25 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2009-02-28 19:39 ` Robert Bridge
2009-02-28 19:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-02 7:31 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-02 8:33 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-02 21:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thilo Bangert
2009-03-09 13:01 ` Jacob Floyd
2009-03-09 15:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-03-09 19:54 ` Richard Freeman
2009-03-10 6:18 ` Duncan [this message]
2009-03-10 15:58 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 21:11 ` Santiago M. Mola
2009-03-10 8:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Haubenwallner
2009-03-12 17:18 ` Alistair Bush
2009-03-13 10:29 ` Michael Haubenwallner
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