From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KmzGx-0007ng-SI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:13:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FCA3E019C; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A0EE019C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BA864A82 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:13:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.83 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.83 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.769, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U5469PNFmwxi for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE1D64A86 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KmzGg-0007MV-27 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:13:34 +0000 Received: from ip68-231-12-43.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.12.43]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:13:34 +0000 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-12-43.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:13:34 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: "Slacking" arches - which are stable, which aren't? Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <6d2ed5bd0810051426w2d30c13agd951d099bfcac5bb@mail.gmail.com> <1223244818.28746.22.camel@lya.wlan.local.porno-bullen.de> <48E96D93.8040108@gentoo.org> <20081005200732.0d856037@halo.dirtyepic.sk.ca> <6d2ed5bd0810060627y3d982a50q2409fc912057ad8d@mail.gmail.com> <48EA6FF2.8020201@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-12-43.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 2ec8a2f1-9178-4e49-ac44-9c9f9d6554b1 X-Archives-Hash: d40689d372ee4bf04bef146839b9aa6d Jeremy Olexa posted 48EA6FF2.8020201@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:07:14 -0500: > AFAIK, it is incorrect right now to exclude s390, arm, sh, etc on > stablereqs right now..But, I ask this question to the dev community: > "Why?" There are ~190 open bugs with s390 as assignee or on the CC list= . > Does it *really* matter if these under-staffed "odd" arches have a > stable tree or not? Having been an amd64 user back when it was much smaller, and having=20 followed the previous discussion on this here, including the mips ->=20 experimental move, yes, it does matter. With the bugs there's at least=20 some info on a package and its stabilization potential when/if someone=20 gets around to doing something about it. Without them, the job of=20 bringing them back to unsupported and then to full supported, if there's=20 suddenly a leap in interest, becomes much harder as there's that much=20 less info on what /was/ stable at one point, and on anything in the ~arch= =20 versions that might need checked before they go stable again. So it matters; there's a practical reason for it. However, that's not=20 the same as saying it's the overall best solution at this time. I have=20 no opinion on that, particularly as I /personally/ prefer ~arch in any=20 case. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman